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Old 12-21-2017, 10:31 AM   #1
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Crazy Airport Pitches

I want to use this thread to discuss the least implausible potential locations for new airports in Massachusetts.

I want to make the assumption that demolishing residential buildings to make space for an airport isn't reasonable, but relocating commercial / industrial / etc buildings might be OK.

Since new airports probably won't happen overnight in any case, we might want to consider the possibility that some smaller airports might be limited to only electric aircraft like http://sunflyer.com/ and some models from http://www.pipistrel-usa.com/ except in emergencies; there's potential over the next few / several years for major improvements in the viability of electric airplanes, which should be a lot quieter and thus avoid a lot of the traditional noise concerns.
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Old 12-21-2017, 10:37 AM   #2
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Re: Needham Line Airport

Some of us think it's going to make sense in the long run to build the Green Line out to Needham and the Orange Line to West Roxbury, which has the potential to lead to the West Roxbury to Needham Junction segment being abandoned. (Or maybe it makes sense to add a new train station less than a mile to the west of West Roxbury at Baker St or VFW Parkway.)

The obvious thing to do with the abandoned ROW at that point would be to build a bike path.

But I'm wondering if the segment from roughly Gardner St to 128 could be turned into a small runway instead, perhaps with a bike path built several hundred feet to the north of the traditional railroad ROW.
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Old 12-21-2017, 10:44 AM   #3
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Re: Everett Airport

If you use the Measure Distance tool in Google Maps and put one end at the Beacham St / Market St intersection, and the other end at the Alford St bridge near the north edge of the Mystic River, you find that that's a little more than a mile long, and it goes entirely through commercial / industrial areas.

The western part of that is a major power plant, but perhaps at some point in the next decade renewable energy will render that plant obsolete, and the casino's development effort may mean that none of what is in that path of a potential runway would necessarily still be there a decade from now in any case.

This would be close enough to Logan that interaction with Logan's traffic patterns might introduce some challenges.
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Old 12-21-2017, 02:18 PM   #4
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Re: Crazy Airport Pitches

This thread confuses me. Are there not enough small general aviation airports around?
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:05 PM   #5
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^There are definitely enough small airports around. I don't think there's a shortage.

I also think the likelihood of building a new large airport is nonexistent. Not only from an available land standpoint (there isn't any nearby), but from a NIMBY standpoint and a federal regulation standpoint (hard to imagine a new airport wouldn't bump into or come close to some wetland, protected woodland, some stream, river, or pond, etc.).

Barring significant changes in technology (i.e. quieter aircraft which require less runway space), I think you're looking at two options. 1. Expand Logan into the harbor more. From an environmental impact standpoint this borders on impossible. But it's still more likely than being able to find usable land within a reasonable distance that doesn't uproot residents and/or impact some element of the environment.

2. Build the existing Logan to max capacity, and build ultra-high speed transit connections to TF Green and Manchester and use them as true Boston area airports. Honestly, running a high speed train (or Maglev or Hyperloop - lets be crazy) to those airports would be more feasible than building a new airport altogether.
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Old 12-21-2017, 03:41 PM   #6
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Re: Airports

For commercial scheduled passenger airline service, I think it's clear that focusing on trying to continue to add service to Logan makes sense, because that facilitates connecting flights, and frequencies to a lot of destinations are already somewhat mediocre without trying to split where in New England people board the planes.

But for small general aviation airports, there might be value in getting any private jets that might be going to the casino off Logan's runways, and an Everett airport would certainly be more convenient for that than ground transportation to Hanscom.

Likewise, a Needham Line airport would likely have the potential to offer more convenient ground transportation connections into the city than Hanscom or Norwood.
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How about a runway that is made for sea planes right there in the harbor? Let's build that for some reason.

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Build the existing Logan to max capacity, and build ultra-high speed transit connections to TF Green and Manchester and use them as true Boston area airports. Honestly, running a high speed train (or Maglev or Hyperloop - lets be crazy) to those airports would be more feasible than building a new airport altogether.
Agree 100% with the above. The other option, expansion into the harbor, would run into 4f issues, as the islands are pretty much all park land.
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