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Old 08-24-2017, 03:27 PM   #381
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And the challenge is how do you keep JetBlue operational (largest carrier at Logan) while you do a total demo on either Terminal C pier.
One way is to keep Southwest in Terminal A for a few more years and put one pier's worth of Jetblue at a time in the current American side of B. However, I believe that Massport has promised Southwest the Terminal B space as soon as American leaves.

Another way might be to build a concourse to roughly connect the piers while keeping the outside gates operational, then demolishing the connectors and renovating the ends, like this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5o0i0nb7o2...l%20C.pdf?dl=0

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Old 08-24-2017, 04:08 PM   #382
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One way is to keep Southwest in Terminal A for a few more years and put one pier's worth of Jetblue at a time in the current American side of B. However, I believe that Massport has promised Southwest the Terminal B space as soon as American leaves.

Another way might be to build a concourse to roughly connect the piers while keeping the outside gates operational, then demolishing the connectors and renovating the ends...
You would also run into issues with Delta who is looking forward to getting the 5 mainline gates Southwest uses in A back for their use.

One thing that would help is if Aer Lingus and TAP move their ops over to Terminal E. I am going to guess Massport won't touch the piers of Terminal C until the Terminal E expansion is well complete, so not until 2022 at the earliest.
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:53 AM   #383
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Construction has started on the expansion/reconfiguration of the low number gates at Terminal B, for the eventual American Airlines consolidation there. From the Tarmac Thursday:

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Old 09-25-2017, 08:23 AM   #384
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With the CLF approval, I guess this can happen:

https://www.massport.com/capitalprog...sal%20Conf.pdf

Note the highlight right off the top: the need to plan for a future people mover.

Also, since this project is open, but not really complete:

https://populous.com/project/logan-i...ate-connector/
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Old 09-25-2017, 08:27 AM   #385
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With the CLF approval, I guess this can happen:

https://www.massport.com/capitalprog...sal%20Conf.pdf

Note the highlight right off the top: the need to plan for a future people mover.
I learned from a reputable source the other day that Massport has actually committed to eliminating the circulator buses within a decade or so, which explains why the people mover is suddenly coming into play.
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Old 09-25-2017, 10:33 AM   #386
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I learned from a reputable source the other day that Massport has actually committed to eliminating the circulator buses within a decade or so, which explains why the people mover is suddenly coming into play.
If that's true, it's not just in play. It's inevitable. Also, then why bother with a connector tube from Terminal E to the Blue Line? Both will be on the APM...
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If that's true, it's not just in play. It's inevitable. Also, then why bother with a connector tube from Terminal E to the Blue Line? Both will be on the APM...
Yes, correct. I was actually thinking about phrasing it that way.

And to your second point - yes, that's why the Blue Line connector is still nothing more than a giant, unresolved placeholder pushed off to phase 2. The connector route in those presentation docs was just to start some dialogue. It is not the final route.
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Yes, correct. I was actually thinking about phrasing it that way.

And to your second point - yes, that's why the Blue Line connector is still nothing more than a giant, unresolved placeholder. The connector in those presentation docs were just to start some dialogue. It is not the final route.
Right, The Blue Line Station and the Rental Car Facility both need connections on the People Mover routing.
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Old 11-08-2017, 09:27 PM   #389
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Nice addition to Terminal Es new addition.

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Old 12-02-2017, 10:58 AM   #390
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Massport confirmed that the B37-38 project is now complete and those flying Spirit now have full access to all of Terminal B.

https://www.facebook.com/BostonLogan...5387611872981/
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Terminal E expansion renderings...

https://www.kpf.com/projects/terminal-e-extension
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:13 AM   #392
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:18 AM   #393
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Anyone else notice 3 jetbridges in the jumbo spots now in the render? Also 2 Emirates a380s at once. Weird.
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Seems big & different enough that it should get a Terminal F designation to make wayfinding / curbfinding easier.
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Anyone else notice 3 jetbridges in the jumbo spots now in the render? Also 2 Emirates a380s at once. Weird.
That represents the already built expansion.
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:47 AM   #396
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By my understanding, KPF didn't win this contract - Luis Vidal/AECOM won it. It's certainly possible that they failed to come to terms and went with KPF, but it's also possible that KPF is showing their proposal renderings as an advertisement even though the project won't be built.
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Wow that looks great
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By my understanding, KPF didn't win this contract - Luis Vidal/AECOM won it. It's certainly possible that they failed to come to terms and went with KPF, but it's also possible that KPF is showing their proposal renderings as an advertisement even though the project won't be built.
This. Unless Luis Vidal (AECOM as Arch of Record) dropped the contract, this KPF design is NOT what is proposed to be built. KPF is likely just putting this on their website for the star factor, even though they did NOT win the contest.
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This. Unless Luis Vidal (AECOM as Arch of Record) dropped the contract, this KPF design is NOT what is proposed to be built. KPF is likely just putting this on their website for the star factor, even though they did NOT win the contest.
As, btw, they should. Nothing wrong with that. It's cool work and they want to use it to win more projects.

I wish Massport wasn't so spotty with posting their board meeting visuals, or we might know more about this.

https://neoscape.com/2017/06/10/buil...ieve-it-in-vr/

Just as a point-of-reference, this is what won. Apparently, it was made into a virtual reality thing.
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As, btw, they should. Nothing wrong with that. It's cool work and they want to use it to win more projects.

I wish Massport wasn't so spotty with posting their board meeting visuals, or we might know more about this.

https://neoscape.com/2017/06/10/buil...ieve-it-in-vr/

Just as a point-of-reference, this is what won. Apparently, it was made into a virtual reality thing.
I posted the winning scheme in Post 344: http://www.archboston.org/community/...&postcount=344

I think the KPF design is actually superior. It doesn't seem to turn its back on Eastie as much.
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