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Old 01-08-2018, 06:00 PM   #101
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Re: San Francisco high-rise sinking, tilting

The curtain wall is apparently peeling away, creating a fire hazard.

https://www.dezeen.com/2017/12/20/si...el-architects/

Its unclear. to me anyway, why Millennium is now suing its construction consultant on the curtainwall

"Dezeen contacted Millennium Partners for comment but is yet to receive a response. But the company has recently taken up the issue of wall problems with Texas-based cladding consultant behind the building Curtainwall Design Consulting – it filed a lawsuit against the firm last month."
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:07 AM   #102
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The curtain wall is apparently peeling away, creating a fire hazard.

https://www.dezeen.com/2017/12/20/si...el-architects/

Its unclear. to me anyway, why Millennium is now suing its construction consultant on the curtainwall

"Dezeen contacted Millennium Partners for comment but is yet to receive a response. But the company has recently taken up the issue of wall problems with Texas-based cladding consultant behind the building Curtainwall Design Consulting – it filed a lawsuit against the firm last month."
There suing to pretend they are not at fault and trying to create that there are more groups at fault besides the developer. But seriously in the end Millennium Partners is responsible for building this Piece of SHIT.
Maybe San Fran taxpaying citizens can pony up 200Million to fix the building.
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:08 AM   #103
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Re: San Francisco high-rise sinking, tilting

Original construction cost: $350 million.

Potential cost to fix: $500 million.

One proposal is to micropile to bedrock support for the half that's sinking the most, then wait and let the remaining half sink to that level.

https://sf.curbed.com/2018/4/16/1724...-san-francisco
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One proposal is to micropile to bedrock support for the half that's sinking the most, then wait and let the remaining half sink to that level.

Has this process ever been attempted before? Pre-existing building to micropile to the bedrock?
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Has this process ever been attempted before? Pre-existing building to micropile to the bedrock?
I have seen them micro-pile existing bridge abutments to bedrock, when re-building the bridge as a proverbial brick outhouse. But they were working with a flat horizontal plane, not one that is sinking and tilting. If one micropiles the 10 percent of the foundation where it has sunk the most, does one wait years before the remaining 90 percent sinks to the level of the 10 percent that was micro-piled first?
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Re: San Francisco high-rise sinking, tilting

I wonder how often collapses like this happen in Mexico City, given its rather precarious location in an old lakebed. The whole municipality is rife with subsidence.

Perhaps this is just getting more attention because it's a newer structure?
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Old 08-06-2018, 07:21 AM   #108
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Re: San Francisco high-rise sinking, tilting

Last night’s “60 Minutes” program -
“Since our story first aired last fall, engineers have begun drilling beneath the Millennium Tower. They're testing a proposed fix for the tilting building, one that would extend the existing foundation all the way to, you guessed it, bedrock. There is still no agreement on who will pay for the fix.”
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Last night’s “60 Minutes” program -
“Since our story first aired last fall, engineers have begun drilling beneath the Millennium Tower. They're testing a proposed fix for the tilting building, one that would extend the existing foundation all the way to, you guessed it, bedrock. There is still no agreement on who will pay for the fix.”
When it comes to quality design/engineering, yet another case of: pay up now, or pay much, much more later.
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