Pierce Boston (née The Point )| Boylston St/Brookline Av | Fenway

[bigpicture7]

1) a nice gateway effect can still be created by a new building at the gulf parcel, without this gulf parcel building being as tall as The Pierce
2) the shaws/gulf parcels' development will likely block the bright yellow side of The Harlo (Yay!)...the street-facing side of The Harlo isn't as bad IMO

[Downburst]

Originally Posted by JumboBuc

The Shaws/Gulf parcels along Boylston will likely get buildings as tall as the Harlo / Van Ness / Viridian / Fenway Health building / etc (which are all roughly the same height). That's what zoning allows along this stretch, and Fenway zoning is generally sensible and appropriate (maybe the best zoning in Greater Boston?). And the chunk of the Shaws/Gulf parcel along Peterborough will likely get built to about 7 stories (again, reasonable).

Exactly what I was talking about earlier, and I'm inclined to agree that it's among the best examples of zoning in the city.

Again- this rezoning was undertaken fairly recently by the city and neighborhood (2004) and was, to be honest, quite responsive to both the wants/needs of the neighborhood and of Samuels/developers.

Not to say that there isn't room in the rezoning for changes/updates, but I am saying that you'd be hard-pressed to find someone looking to exceed the zoning on the Gulf/Star Market site to Pierce levels with that level of City/neighborhood buy-in.

[Brad Plaid]

Wish the white trim had been used for the entire building instead of having the dark grey, would have been more coherent.

[stick n move]

I dont think the pierce residents would care about shadows as much as having someones room outside your window.

[DZH22]

IMG_0575 by David Z, on Flickr

IMG_0577 by David Z, on Flickr

[Boston02124]

[BeeLine]

[GW]

Oooof, that's terrible.

But wait: does that one panel of glass on the east end mean the awful dark paneling might actually be covered?

[Suffolk 83]

From the front point angle I like it but all 3 other sides are not working for me and its getting worse the more I look at it

[mdd]

Originally Posted by Suffolk 83

From the front point angle I like it but all 3 other sides are not working for me and its getting worse the more I look at it

Agreed.

[DZH22]

From Sunday in context. Northeastern dorm u/c to the left.

IMG_0696 by David Z, on Flickr

IMG_0695 by David Z, on Flickr

[BeeLine]

[BeeLine]

[jass]

Why is the sidewalk so small

[Rover]

Originally Posted by jass

Why is the sidewalk so small

Its only being marketed to skinny people.

[jass]

Originally Posted by Rover

Its only being marketed to skinny people.

Then why is the building so fat

[BostonDrew]

Also worth noting that a small wine bar will be opening on the ground floor called nathálie. It is being opened by the same group that owns Haley.Henry Wine Bar at 45 Province Street.

It is expected to open this summer. It will be only 1,200 sq/ft and have an outdoor patio, open in the summer time.

https://boston.eater.com/2018/1/29/1...urant-nathalie

[Rover]

Originally Posted by jass

Then why is the building so fat

So they can pack in more rich skinny people. Duh.

[Mike02125]

This is a real home run from the front angle, a little less exciting from all other angles and especially from a distance.

Also, the sign says they are renting now? Did the condos not sell well? I've always wondered if renting in the Fenway could be seen as fun, but transient for a year or two - yet putting down more permanent roots next to the stadium would be a harder sell.

[tysmith95]

Originally Posted by Mike02125

This is a real home run from the front angle, a little less exciting from all other angles and especially from a distance.

Also, the sign says they are renting now? Did the condos not sell well? I've always wondered if renting in the Fenway could be seen as fun, but transient for a year or two - yet putting down more permanent roots next to the stadium would be a harder sell.

It has 240 apartments and 109 condos on the upper floors.