archBOSTON.org

Go Back   archBOSTON.org > Outside Of Boston Metro > General Architecture & Urban Planning

General Architecture & Urban Planning All things architectural or urban in general, or withinin cities outside of Boston & Greater New England.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-03-2010, 01:03 AM   #21
czsz
Senior Member
 
czsz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 5,951
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

The DC metro expansion isn't that impressive. It's long, but almost entirely intended to serve Dulles. Boston has had an international airport-heavy rail connection since the Blue Line was laid out, and, love it or hate it (okay, you hate it) the Silver Line augmented that service. It was kind of pathetic that the nation's capital hadn't caught up to the world standard in airport ground transportation; the fact that National Airport was hooked up to Metro was meaningless when the larger Dulles was not only unserved, but only accessible by expensive private toll highway.
czsz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 08:02 AM   #22
GW2500
Senior Member
 
GW2500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Allston
Posts: 961
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Personally I'm very jealous of DC's metro. I believe it's expanding in other directions too, or atleast thats what the metro map said last october. But I read a little on that extension out to the airport. I believe it's going to cut through some of those VA cities in DC's metro area like Tyson's Corner. Never been over there but it should make things more exciting.
__________________
Come lurk with me in the shadows.
GW2500 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 08:56 AM   #23
Shepard
Senior Member
 
Shepard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,057
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Not to derail this discussion (arrrgh) but DC's metro is largely style over substance. The area of dense coverage is far smaller than what the T covers, and even within that there are many stations that are Bowdoin-esque in their use as M-F 9-5 worker bee stops. Meanwhile, major residential areas are completely unserved. And then beyond the central hub the metro quickly becomes something much more akin to the commuter rail in several directions.
Shepard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 09:02 AM   #24
bdurden
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 950
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Like DC, Miami's heavy rail expansion is intended to serve as a link between the airport and downtown, via the Earlington superstation that connects to commuter rail. They really need to link out to South Beach--long overdue.
bdurden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2010, 09:10 PM   #25
bdurden
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 950
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Miami's:
bdurden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2010, 11:24 AM   #26
KentXie
Senior Member
 
KentXie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Charlestown
Posts: 2,500
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

An expansion is an expansion. A new rail to the airport is an improvement for both cities. Has Boston made any improvements in trying to get people to places? And no, the Silver Line doesn't count.

And I believe that Boston only benefited having a line serving an airport early because of Logan's close proximity. Dulles is 25 miles from D.C. and MIA is 8 miles away.
KentXie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2010, 12:05 PM   #27
aquaman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 167
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by KentXie View Post
An expansion is an expansion. A new rail to the airport is an improvement for both cities. Has Boston made any improvements in trying to get people to places? And no, the Silver Line doesn't count.

And I believe that Boston only benefited having a line serving an airport early because of Logan's close proximity. Dulles is 25 miles from D.C. and MIA is 8 miles away.

True, but Logan's proximity has always made it a more valuable asset for Boston than Dulles has been to downtown DC (as compared to National). But your point is taken: millions spent on expanding transit infrastructure in other cities, while our system remains less than satisfactory to our liking.
aquaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2010, 12:58 PM   #28
FLAindy
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 35
Red face Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

That was a good article on Miami. It is URBANE....not URBAN as I had claimed in an earlier post in the "White Flight" topic.
FLAindy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 09:26 PM   #29
czsz
Senior Member
 
czsz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 5,951
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't



http://inhabitat.com/big-unveils-rad...-in-nyc-today/
czsz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 10:34 PM   #30
Ron Newman
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Davis Square, Somerville, MA
Posts: 7,905
Send a message via AIM to Ron Newman
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Unveiled? How did they conceal this while it was being built?
Ron Newman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 10:41 PM   #31
Beton Brut
Senior Member
 
Beton Brut's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Orient Heights
Posts: 3,133
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

I sent this to someone today. Like the Macallen Building on steroids. A little Paul Rudolph, a little Zaha Hadid, a little Frei Otto.

Why not in Southie? Or Maverick Square?
Beton Brut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2011, 11:50 PM   #32
czsz
Senior Member
 
czsz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: brooklyn
Posts: 5,951
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Newman View Post
Unveiled? How did they conceal this while it was being built?
Ron, it's just the rendering that was unveiled.

Quote:
Why not in Southie?
It's sad that Boston hasn't been able to embrace bold architecture on the South Boston Waterfront (beyond the ICA) considering it was the one place in the city without significant NIMBY opposition to virtually anything novel or unique being proposed. New York has banked on a similar waterfront opportunity and the West Side Highway has slowly become a boulevard of futuristic starchitecture.
czsz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 07:31 AM   #33
BarbaricManchurian
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 786
Send a message via MSN to BarbaricManchurian
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Pretty sure that just means they announced the project that day.
BarbaricManchurian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 12:04 PM   #34
ledjes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Boston
Posts: 164
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Egad - send that monstrosity back to Dubai where it belongs.

czsz - "slowly" must be the operative word regarding the West Side Hwy. I've been travelling that road quite a bit over the course of the last few months. The only thing that could be deemed "futuristic" is Gerhy's IAC building - and even that's a stretch.
ledjes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 12:52 PM   #35
datadyne007
Senior Member
 
datadyne007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 3,060
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

It's much better and more thought-out than the one BIG proposed for our waterfront/s. Boston. The checkerboard was just eurgh.
datadyne007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2011, 03:27 PM   #36
Shepard
Senior Member
 
Shepard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,057
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

Inhabitat is hyperbole central. I can't read it without my eyes exploding.

e.g. Incredible New Amazing Transparent Material Allows Residents to See Outside Without The Terrible Fuss of Feeling Cold Air!!
Shepard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 09:19 AM   #37
MonopolyBag
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: North Salem, NH
Posts: 424
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

I love the title to this thread. But hey, as bad as you may think Boston is behind (which in some aspects they may be) it is not a half bad city.
MonopolyBag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 09:36 AM   #38
statler
Moderator
 
statler's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Approaching a City
Posts: 5,657
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

It's a great city. Mostly because of what was built 50-100+ years ago.
People are bemoaning the fact that we haven't exactly lived up to our predecessors high standards.
statler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2011, 09:10 PM   #39
Patrick
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland, Maine
Posts: 3,213
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

well put, Statler. I think the same feeling exists everywhere that has a good starting point. They really don't make 'em like that anymore. And when they try (new urbanism), often the result is ersatz urbanism (artificial feeling). I wonder if all new projects start out with that feeling? Can anyone name an "instant" classic (as contradictory as that may sound)?

For anyone who follows the Architect's Newspaper (I have a facebook feed), that site has plenty of other renderings of this project, some of which cast it in a better light imo.
__________________
I like urbanism, big and small, near and far.
Patrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2011, 08:16 AM   #40
bdurden
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 950
Default Re: Amazing shit other cities get that Boston doesn't

I'd consider this an instance classic:



and this:

bdurden is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cities that are not Boston and may or may not be better. JANAM General Architecture & Urban Planning 186 12-19-2010 02:20 PM
Ork Posters - Boston + other cities palindrome General 6 09-02-2009 09:51 PM
Amazing Old Birds-Eye Views Of Boston briv Existing Development 19 07-27-2008 07:03 PM
Amazing Photography statler General 6 03-15-2008 03:09 PM
The most amazing notebook I've ever seen! M. Brown General 6 06-19-2006 10:27 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.