Worst New Proposal Nominations

briv · 01-21-2009, 01:08 PM

In light of Boston's glacial pace of development, and the fact that many developments go through several different iterations as they evolve, people should feel free to nominate any proposal in the pipeline that has not entered the construction phase by the end of 2008.

Please provide as much detail as possible about the project, such as links to any Archboston threads about the project and any official websites, etc.

ablarc · 01-21-2009, 02:35 PM

http://www.archboston.org/community/...ead.php?t=1835

Lrfox · 01-21-2009, 05:38 PM

^No need to vote. I think SCL gets it hands down.

kennedy · 01-21-2009, 08:31 PM

Thirded.

Padre Mike · 01-22-2009, 02:03 PM

AMEN!

statler · 01-22-2009, 02:15 PM

While it's true that SCL is the hands down winner in this catagory, part of this exercise is to spotlight some of the good and bad throughout the city and this was hardly the only bad proposal that is floating out there.

With that in mind I nominate:
One Bromfield (in it's current configuration)

&

120 Kingston St

Lurker · 01-22-2009, 02:21 PM

SCL hands down.

kennedy · 01-22-2009, 05:11 PM

Man, I really like 120 Kingston...

Beton Brut · 01-22-2009, 07:12 PM

^ The original scheme was great. The post-NIMBY, post-value-engineering version is rubbish. I can only hope it falls victim to the economic downturn.

kennedy · 01-22-2009, 09:12 PM

Yeah I guess you have a point. If only they could merge the two designs. They both have ups and downs.

type001 · 01-25-2009, 07:59 AM

SCL... Design, replacement-choice, and politics really made it the worst.

JeffDowntown · 01-25-2009, 12:24 PM

Have to agree with the concensus -- SCL -- terrible design, loss of a wonderful anchor building and horrible perversion of process.

ablarc · 01-31-2009, 07:37 AM

If it weren't for SCL, I believeFenway Center would be the front runner for worst new proposal.

Anyway, now it's a horse race.

Can we give dual awards ... like shared Nobel Prizes?

Both these projects need to be called out for what they are. In the case of Fenway Center, the public can be allocated a big share of the blame. That's significant; it showsw what kind of answer you get when you ask the public for guidance. Important lesson.

kennedy · 01-31-2009, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ablarc

In the case of Fenway Center, the public can be allocated a big share of the blame. That's significant; it showsw what kind of answer you get when you ask the public for guidance. Important lesson.

Do we count as the public? I tend to think developers should have a listen to what we say here...and use it as guidance.

statler · 01-31-2009, 09:57 AM

The public is people who have the time to go to endless meetings.

Hooplehead · 02-18-2009, 08:12 AM

In my humble, the fact that Fenway Center is somewhat tucked away behind Kenmore Square, and located on currently vacant land and air-rights, gives the nod to SCL. That project requires the demolition of an iconic building, and the Drukerization of one of the most prominent corners in town.

01-21-2009, 01:08 PM	#1
briv Administrator Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,991	Worst New Proposal Nominations In light of Boston's glacial pace of development, and the fact that many developments go through several different iterations as they evolve, people should feel free to nominate any proposal in the pipeline that has not entered the construction phase by the end of 2008. Please provide as much detail as possible about the project, such as links to any Archboston threads about the project and any official websites, etc.

01-21-2009, 02:35 PM	#2
ablarc Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,528	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations http://www.archboston.org/community/...ead.php?t=1835

01-21-2009, 05:38 PM	#3
Lrfox Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,555	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations ^No need to vote. I think SCL gets it hands down.

01-21-2009, 08:31 PM	#4
kennedy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marblehead & Columbia, MO Posts: 2,820	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations Thirded. __________________ A blog I started with a few friends: The Bureau

01-22-2009, 02:03 PM	#5
Padre Mike Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Malden Posts: 403	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations AMEN!

01-22-2009, 02:15 PM	#6
statler Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Approaching a City Posts: 5,664	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations While it's true that SCL is the hands down winner in this catagory, part of this exercise is to spotlight some of the good and bad throughout the city and this was hardly the only bad proposal that is floating out there. With that in mind I nominate: One Bromfield (in it's current configuration) & 120 Kingston St

01-22-2009, 02:21 PM	#7
Lurker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South End Posts: 2,358	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations SCL hands down. __________________ The above comment is entirely my delusional ramblings, and not those of my family, friends, past employers, or any of my other personalities. "And please, I wear my Harvard Yard shorts a seersucker with crimson whales when I ghost-ride the limozine with my mangy fat cats." -Kennedy

01-22-2009, 05:11 PM	#8
kennedy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marblehead & Columbia, MO Posts: 2,820	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations Man, I really like 120 Kingston... __________________ A blog I started with a few friends: The Bureau

01-22-2009, 07:12 PM	#9
Beton Brut Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orient Heights Posts: 3,144	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations ^ The original scheme was great. The post-NIMBY, post-value-engineering version is rubbish. I can only hope it falls victim to the economic downturn.

01-22-2009, 09:12 PM	#10
kennedy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marblehead & Columbia, MO Posts: 2,820	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations Yeah I guess you have a point. If only they could merge the two designs. They both have ups and downs. __________________ A blog I started with a few friends: The Bureau

01-25-2009, 07:59 AM	#11
type001 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Winchester Posts: 534	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations SCL... Design, replacement-choice, and politics really made it the worst.

01-25-2009, 12:24 PM	#12
JeffDowntown Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Cove Posts: 74	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations Have to agree with the concensus -- SCL -- terrible design, loss of a wonderful anchor building and horrible perversion of process. __________________ Jeff H. Downtown, South Cove

01-31-2009, 07:37 AM	#13
ablarc Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,528	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations If it weren't for SCL, I believeFenway Center would be the front runner for worst new proposal. Anyway, now it's a horse race. Can we give dual awards ... like shared Nobel Prizes? Both these projects need to be called out for what they are. In the case of Fenway Center, the public can be allocated a big share of the blame. That's significant; it showsw what kind of answer you get when you ask the public for guidance. Important lesson.

01-31-2009, 09:57 AM	#15
statler Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Approaching a City Posts: 5,664	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations The public is people who have the time to go to endless meetings.

02-18-2009, 08:12 AM	#16
Hooplehead Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 37	Re: Worst New Proposal Nominations In my humble, the fact that Fenway Center is somewhat tucked away behind Kenmore Square, and located on currently vacant land and air-rights, gives the nod to SCL. That project requires the demolition of an iconic building, and the Drukerization of one of the most prominent corners in town. __________________ "Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son."

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