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Those are probably better places to compare it to, I am just almost completely unfamiliar with Gloucester and Newburyport so I didn't feel comfortable throwing those names out there and I almost said Salem, but again, I'm more familiar with Portland. If you combined Lowell and Salem, you'd have something similar to New Bedford in its current state.
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Gloucester is an active fishing port that also has a substantial tourist trade.
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KMP, Not trying to be pushy, but did you say you have pictures to post in this thread? If you're busy, you can send them to me and I'll post them for you this weekend when I have time.
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So it's not Hampton Inn after all, but Fairfield Inn is very similar.
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It's funny that some of the comments on the Standard Times website about this are negative. People are complaining that this is the lowest Marriott Brand, which it is; but beggars can't be choosers. Since this will be the first hotel in the city, it's tough to argue for something nicer. If I'm in the hospitality industry I'm not going to build a 4 or 5 star hotel where not only is the market unpredictable, it just plain doesn't exist. You have to start somewhere, why don't people get that? Also, the Cliftex Mill is being demolished this week to make room for another development (I'm not sure of what kind). Last edited by Lrfox; 03-14-2008 at 10:56 AM. |
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Interesting article on Short Sea Shipping. This could potentially benefit more than just the South Coast, but since the focus of the article is a UMass Dartmouth Symposium and New Bedford and Fall River, I'll re-post it here. Some stimulus such as this one could be beneficial for coastal New England cities everywhere.
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I glad SSS is catching on as an idea. Not too many people know about it but it would really help the east coast.
This is a presentation by the president of the Association for Public Transportation to the Lieutenant Governor's transportation conference in October 2007. Go to page 21 to see the info on SSS. http://www.car-free.com/papers/Strat...astructure.pdf
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I had a couple dozen pictures on my cell but I must have deleted them, I apologize. I'll be down there April 6 & 13 for some sailing and I'll try to get into the city for a quick photo session. There's not a whole lot to be seen but I doubt many people have seen New Bedford at all.
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The LaFrance family has done a lot for the South Coast in the hospitality business. Good for them.
I'll take some pictures tomorrow if the weather is nice. |
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I really hope this happens, and not just in New Bedford, but in many other coastal cities as well.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/...27/1011/TOWN10 Quote:
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Ok, I'm double-posting, but I think it's necessary. The important part of this article (aside from the obvious support from the city) is that they're trying to work the historic building at this location into the design which of course likely means that this won't be the typical suburban looking mediocre chain hotel. It'll be unique looking, mediocre chain hotel; but hey, you have to start somewhere.
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I love that NB is getting a decent hotel, but if it's a "dream come true" someone needs to go back an look at their goals again. *Edit* Aerial photo of the site: ![]() and the adjacent Historical Bourne Counting House: ![]() I'm not sure what the "whaling era building" is that they plan to incorporate into the new hotel, but I don't think this is it (this is a registered historic landmark). I'll get a photo of it as soon as I find out. Last edited by Lrfox; 04-11-2008 at 09:05 AM. |
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Ok, two articles from the standard times today. The first involves the idea of listing the historic tax cap to spur development in historical buildings like New Bedford's Fairhaven Mills. The second is about Mayor Land pushing for air service from New Bedford's airport to Hub cities like New York and Philadelphia.
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Interesting idea, and I don't see why the cap should be kept. but I also don't see how lifting the cap is going to singlehandedly save these projects. I doubt the cap acts as a prohibiter for most developers; I think the economy has filled that role currently. But what the hell, lift the cap, it can't hurt. This Next one is a brief bit about potential airport service: Quote:
I'm as optimistic about New Bedford as anyone is, but this is pure fantasy. Until the city has a little more to offer, especially in this economic slump, no airline is going to offer service from New Bedford to a hub city. The best right now that I can see New Bedford getting is seasonal Cape Air service from an NYC area airport. This would see tourist use from the Tri-State vacationers, but I doubt a long-term, year round connection is viable right now. |
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I think removing the tax credit cap is a brilliant idea. If there is high priority in relocating a business it is low taxes. Taxes kill economic development and lower tax revenue in the long term. I think the Mayor is learning from the Irish politicians and businessmen his office has been courting lately. If there is a contemporary model of economic develpment it is the Celtic Tiger.
Moreover, the other day I was walking along the riverfront on the Fairhaven side and was wondering if preserving the old mills is worth it. Maybe New Bedford ahould push something more radical such as demolition of the Mills and building new buildings. The waterfront is a goldmine with the long term EPA clean-up and the possible commuter rail to NB. |
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^I'd have to agree with you on the mills buildings. I'd say tear them down and build with more density down there, it's going to happen soon, so they might as well start in that direction. If not, maybe incorporate the old buildings in a larger, denser development with a combination of the existing buildings and the addition of newer, more modern construction. If done correctly, it could look nice.
The other site I'm amazed has been vacant for so long is the open lot on the North side of Union street between Purchase and Pleasant streets. It's prime real estate, and something is bound to go there sooner or later. But this is my contribution from the Standard Times for today, an article pertaining to the rebuilding of the Corson Building, destroyed by fire in 1997. It's set to re-open May 16th with everyone's favorite drunk, Ted Kennedy, doing the ribbon cutting: Quote:
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Two Pictures, the first is from user: RaphaelMazor on flickr, and the second is the Standard Times interior staff Photo: ![]()
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Good to see the Corson building back in order. I have walked by there on my way to my watering hole and was wondering when it would open. North of the downtown historical district is prime property. Any open spaceis worth purchasing and developing in this area.
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Apparently the city of New Bedford is going to slap some restrictions on outdoor dining. The plan calls for restaurants to require permits from the city to set up outdoor seating, requiring there to be at least 4 feet of passable sidewalk between the closest table and the road. If there are barriers or fences, they must be easily movable, as nothing on the street can be permanent. If a restaurant serves alcohol, barriers MUST be in place, separating the people on the streets from the patrons. No one can order just alcoholic drinks, they must have something else (not clear yet on whether you need a full meal, or if splitting bread or an appetizer will suffice). Each restaurant that sets up outdoor seating must have a full menu.
No word on what the cost of obtaining a permit is, but I'm hoping it's minimal. New Bedford wouldn't have much without its restaurants, and slapping restrictions on them is not a great way to attract more. I love dining outdoors and I would hate to see this go away because of some over-the-top ordinance. Bad move in my opinion, but depending on the price of permit, and the specifics of the regulations, it could end up being worse. Standard Times Photo: ![]() link to the article: http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/...55/1011/TOWN10 |
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Hello
Just found and joined this site. I am from New Bedford. Here are a few pics I have taken of the city. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Hey Greg, welcome to the site and thanks for the great pictures. I'm a Southcoast guy as well. I look forward to your contributions (in text and photographic form).
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Thanks!
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Best New Bedford pics I've seen yet! I never thought this city had a decent skyline...until now!
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Nice shots, thanks for sharing!
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