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and no, the Donald is not involved.
Height will be between 1,200 and 1,375 feet. Over 3000 online votes cast in the last day: SOM 40% Pelli 38% Rogers 14% Back to the drawing boards: 8% the SOM and Mitsubishi (Rockefeller Group) design: ![]() ![]() ![]() the Rogers Stirk Harbour and Forest City design ![]() ![]() the Pelli Clarke Pelli and Hines design ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...sn=001&sc=1000
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I think i like the SOM one the best, but i need more renderings.
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Holy shit. Based on what I see, I prefer the SOM too. But wow is Boston indeed pwned by this architecture.
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Just replied to ablarc's post in the Winthrop Sq. thread...
The Rodgers/Ratner proposal is interesting. The red-orange on the facade and spires references both the Golden Gate and Sutro Tower. Pelli's proposal is a retread of IFC in HK. Slick, but boring. I'd like to see more of the SOM design. I looks like it's trying to one-up Thom Mayne's new Federal Building by extruding its grammar into the clouds. |
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All three seem to have a long feature on the ground, What is it?
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I believe it's a train station (the Transbay Terminal).
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I thought Transbay was a bus station?
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SF will always one-up Boston. Well at least we can one- up against Philly.
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For more on the transportation aspects of the tower at the Transbay Center, see:
http://www.transbaycenter.org/TransB...ent.aspx?id=40 I can find only one additional rendering, that for the Rogers design: ![]() The Rogers design statement: Quote:
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I think the Rogers proposal is hurt in the voting by having no renderings of the TransitCenter.
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Two teams were knocked out in the earlier stage of the competition:
# Santiago Calatrava and Boston Properties # Foster + Partners and The Related Companies with TMG Partners There is a long list of design framework documents to be found here: http://www.ci.sf.ca.us/site/sfra_page.asp?id=5583 I'm struck by how different the process is in San Francisco in deciding what to build for its signature tower and the process followed by Boston's architects in chief, Tomasino Menino & Partners.
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To be fair, Menino thought a contest like this would develop but only received the one proposal...
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^^ And unfortunately, the one person who bid on it happened to own the neighboring parcel, which was needed to make the project profitable, thus more or less excluding the possibility of a competitive bidding process.
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Seriously, the amount of land that the parking garage takes up is laughably small when it comes to a skyscraper. Just look at the footprint of these proposals.
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Actually the Rogers design -- at least the color palette -- compliments the Towering Inferno tower, which is the Bank of America building.
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BA5BRETH12.DTL
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The SOM model
![]() The Pelli model ![]() The Rogers model ![]() I think the red lines are externally mounted elevators. Based on the models, I least favor the Pelli design.
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Ya, my favorite is The Roger design...It just looks creative and out there. And a red building looks amazing! lol
But ya the Pelli design is definitely the least appealing. |
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First, more renderings:
Rogers design ![]() SOM design: ![]() Pelli design: ![]() Tower top: Pelli design: ![]() Second, the opinion of the San Francisco Chronicle's architecture columnist, I think John King is sort of like a mix of Steve Bailey and Robert Campbell. He likes the Rogers design: Quote:
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