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...there goes my commute.
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czsz wrote:
... the other option, which was reported on Fox 25, was to do night repairs over a two year period. This one (stripping Newton and part of Brookline of rail transit for months) was more convenient how? Quote:
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As a Newton resident, I may have some insight here.
The track work on the D Branch has been going on at night for the past few years, as well as on weekends during the day. Residents whose homes directly abut the tracks complained that the heavy machinery and loud voices of the workers kept them and their children from sleeping during the work. Hence, the MBTA moved the work to the daylight hours. As far as the Sox go, the T plans to run direct shuttle service from Riverside to Fenway many game days. The trip might actually take less time, for those of us Riverside or beyond, anyway. |
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If your destination is Brookline Village, the E train may be a useful alternative.
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Equilibria, thanks for the explanation. I wonder, though, why there's a need to shut down such long sections of the line for such long periods of time. Surely they could begin by, say, shutting down Riverside and proceeding from Woodland, in order to be as minimally disruptive as possible...
Anyway, can someone suggest alternatives for me? I'm going from Needham to Kenmore Square, and have been parking at the Star Market lot in Chestnut Hill to grab the D. I guess I could take the C from Reservoir, but I get the sense that all of Newton is going to be parking at the T garage there over the next few months. Is there anywhere else to park around Reservoir/any other sensible routes from Needham -> Kenmore (the commuter rail to Back Bay + Green Line is a ridiculous waste of time). |
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Why not take the Framingham line in? They have 4 inbound trains before 9am that stop at Auburndale in Newton which has a huge free parking lot and at Yawkey Way in Fenway....
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Or commuter rail from Needham to Back Bay, walk up Dartmouth Street for two blocks to Copley, then Green Line outbound, two stops.
Or 60 bus from Chestnut Hill Route 9 to Kenmore |
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I'll look into the 60 bus...does anyone know how long it takes from Chestnut Hill to Kenmore? |
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While some amount of inconvenience is inevitable as necessary rehab work is done, the frustrating issue with the T is how loooooong it takes to do relatively straightforward work. It's more about the jobs than the job completion, and the authority falls back on "replacement bus service" at the drop of a hat. And they never meet even their astonishingly unambitious deadlines.
Consider how fast a tower like One Lincoln went up. Now consider the year and a half that it took to re-connect and repaint the Lechmere viaduct. Or the years it took to get the simple waiting stands finished on the Washington Street Silver Line. Or the glacial pace of the Charles/MGH rehab. Or any other station rehab, for that matter. My current favorite is the Arlington station re-do, which is now promised for "Spring 2009." In other words, it will take over 2 years to add an elevator and re-do an existing station. The tracks themselves won't be touched, and the scope of the renovation isn't exactly lavish. If you took a time lapse photo of that worksite you could compress entire months without any visible sign of progress. |
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Very true, InTheHood. There's already speculation at boston.com that this work will drag into fall, or even continue for years. One poster ominously noted that "temporary busing" due to "minor work" is what shut down the E branch from Heath Street to Arborway in 1985...a service which has yet to be restored.
(Anecdote: On the Green Line yesterday I noticed that little more than whiteout had been used to erase the very nomenclatural suggestion of Arborway on the line map, although the map had already been updated to show the terminus at Heath St.) |
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Sick transit...
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czsz regarding Needham to Kenmore commute:
If you go early, say before 8:00 a.m, you should be able to find free parking for the entire day on Beacon Street around the Reservoir at Boston College. The parking may get easier this summer with college out of session. Also, metered parking along Beacon Street near Cleveland Cir. is long term at least 6 hrs and I think some meters are 8 and 10 hr parking. These meters are 25 cents an hour if memory serves me right. |
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I take the E every morning past Brigham Circle and have never had my train turned around.....I've occasionally seen it happen, but it is probably less than 1 in 10 trains, and it's only when the outbound traffic is heavy and inbound is light, so you wouldn't be waiting long for another outbound. That said, the outbound E is miserably crowded until Arlington.
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Buses do the trick for trolley riders
Commute OK as track work starts By Mac Daniel, Globe Staff | June 26, 2007 So far, so good on the Green Line shutdown. Thousands of passengers boarded buses instead of trolleys yesterday morning between Riverside and Reservoir stations on the D branch, the first weekday commute to make room for two months of summertime repairs. While it went relatively smoothly, there were complaints, this being the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority. Some riders told T officials that to limit delays, they should bypass certain unpopular stops or have an express bus run from Newton Centre to Reservoir. The diversion is costing commuters an additional 15 to 20 minutes per trip . "Things always take longer than they say," Linda Sweeney , a data analyst at Massachusetts General Hospital, said as she arrived to get the bus 20 minutes earlier than usual. Dennis Howard, a Harvard Medical Coop employee who commutes from Newton Highlands, was stunned at how well things worked. "It was inexplicable that it was as efficient as it was," he said. "Given the T's lack of common sense sometimes, it was very surprising." He said his bus driver bypassed stops where no one was getting on or off, speeding up the trip. "So far, I'm impressed," Howard said. T officials said the usual drop in summertime ridership helped. Until Aug. 3, repair work on the trolley track during the project's first phase will have buses serving riders between Riverside and Reservoir stations in Newton. However, full trolley service will be provided on the Fourth of July, when thousands of commuters take the line to see the festivities on the Esplanade. The second phase of the project, from Aug. 4 to Aug. 31, will eliminate trolley service between Reservoir and Fenway stations. Again, buses will serve instead . The D branch , which has 20,000 daily riders, is the last on the Green Line to get major track work and repairs that will allow trolleys to go faster and allow the use of low-floor trolleys that are more accessible to the elderly and disabled. There had been fears that the bus shuttles, combined with roadwork on adjacent Route 9, would create huge backups on local roads. None of that was evident yesterday. Kevin McGuire, the MBTA's deputy chief operating officer, said the diversion went extremely well, despite a bus breakdown in Newton Highlands that briefly held up traffic. Along the route, the worst obstacles for buses were lawn-cutting crews. The MBTA had 32 shuttles taking passengers between stations. The inbound trip took about 20 minutes, while the outbound, with more stops, was a bit slower. There was, however, little wait for a bus at any of the stations, where the T had stationed numerous employees to help passengers. "I wasn't expecting it to be like this," said Bernice Sookie, 48, who left herself an extra 90 minutes for her commute from Jamaica Plain to Newton Center. "I was expecting it to be chaotic, but it's running smoothly." |
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I have an internship this summer in Brookline Village, so this is very inconvenient for me. I think I may utilize the 66 bus as a more direct route from my neighborhood, rather than the shuttle bus.
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Why not take the E Line?
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Can we check Mac Daniels bank account? There has to be a nice deposit from the MBTA for spreading this propaganda. |
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