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Old 03-07-2007, 05:28 PM   #1
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Evolution of the Prudential Center: 1954-1989

I've gather these pictures from the Copley Square branch of the public library over time, and I figure I may as well share them with you. Some of the pictures I've posted before, but chances are they were taken with the ol' cell cam, whereas all of these are done with my PowerShot.

The earliest version of the Pru, taken from the cover of the "Taxi News Digest," October '54 edition






1959, the Pru has assumed its basic final form, with many residential towers envisioned



A couple years later, and the plan's been pared down to its first phase

















Auditorium under construction:











the barren plaza





circa 1968



and the tenant directory from the same period. Click for full size (879k):



Now let's fast-forward to 1981. A firm is hired to start identifying ways to make better use of their space. Click for full size (961k):



By 1985 a Master Plan had been completed, which is where the next several images come from









Perhaps the most interesting idea from this MP, East Ring Road was to have townhouses built on them. the road's width would have been reduced to "carriage" scale, and other underutilized plaza/empty space would have created the rest of land needed for these



also note that there is a "residential square" proposed off of ERR



The MP proprosed building up the main mall area ala Copley Place, although in place of the Trump-like brass and pink marble, this would have had a more typical Boston flavor to it




And then by 1989, two years after the PruPAC (Public Advisory Committee) had been formed, the plans assumed the shape that they still have today




LASTLY, here is a timeline of "Prudential Center Milestones."









OK --- that's it!! Hope you enjoyed, and if there's any image you want the full size of, just speak up.
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Old 03-07-2007, 06:13 PM   #2
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Awesome post! I love stuff like this. That idea for row houses along the East Ring Road is pretty cool. It's also nice to see a plan for development that has largely been completed the way it was set out to be.

Edit: The first picture looks like the Empire State Plaza a little bit. Ahead of its time?
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Old 03-07-2007, 07:51 PM   #3
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Very nice work pulling that together!

question -- when I was fairly young i vaguely remember coming in to Boston and walking around the shops at the base of the tower. my limited memory says where the mall is now was open to the air -- at least in parts.

if i'm right about that, when did it get closed in?

i also remember going to a music store in the mall when i was in college -- probably 1988/89 at that time i think everything was glassed in. the escellators down to the street were there. but it was a smaller floor plan, very plain, and not as busy as it typically is now.

anyway, nice post.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:22 PM   #4
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The non-enclosed shopping area was a terrible place, because the wind just whipped through it. Turning it into a mall greatly improved the entire Pru.
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:04 AM   #5
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wind problems

When the Pru opened there was a small bridge over a pool of water leading from the shopping arcade to the tower. (Are they still there?) The high winds caused the water to spray on people crossing these walk ways. The Pru then put up the glass enclosures. Problem solved? No, pigeons caught in the wind from the tower would smash against the glass. Not a pretty sight for the tenants. They next installed green netting to stop this and this was the way it remained till the recent rebuild.


btw - great post
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:05 AM   #6
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Cool, thanks for posting this. The original renderings for 111 Huntington look terrible! I'm glad that thing was never built.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:44 PM   #7
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Great posting kz! I too remember when the center was first built and going to my first auto show at the Hynes in 1964. The open malls were indeed windy, but I was fascinated by the stairs leading to open walkways above the malls and ringing around the Pru tower. They were soon closed off the the public though. The glass enclosures helped a bit, but it was always bitterly cold in the winter, and there weren't enough retail shops to make it a "destination." One of the few original features of the center is Donald DeLue's sculpture on the Boylston St. side. He did a similar figure for the New York Worlds Fair in the 60s. He is one of the great 20th C. American sculptures from the school of Paul Manship ("Prometheus" fountain at Rockefeller Center) and other mid-century modern artists. The Child's Gallery on Newbury St. features a number of his maquettes in the front window. I hope a fitting setting will be found for the sculpture when the area in front of the tower is infilled. All in all, I think the ongoing development of this site has been on of the success stories of Boston, even though the interior mall format tends to remove people from the actual sights and sounds of the city streets. My only regret is that water fountains intended to be bubbling in the newest "bamboo garden" section were filled in for plant materials.
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When I first got here in the 1970s, a guidebook referred to the Pru complex as "antisocial" and "isolated" and said there was "no reason to go there". Wish I still had a copy of this book, whatever it was.
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I like the tower that was proposed at the entrance of the Prudential on the Boylston Street side. I hope they would build something like that there and another taller tower over the Hynes Convention Center.
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The 4th picture from the top shows an above ground highway ramp. Was that built and then covered with Copley Place? It appears so in Google Maps, but I don't know if the map is accurate.

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I remember going to the old Pru a few times in the 1980s and early 1990s (there was a Brigham's approximately where Legal Sea Foods is now). I have vague memories of it, are there any interior pictures of it prior to its 1993 renovation out there?
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Old 03-15-2007, 04:31 PM   #13
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The 4th picture from the top shows an above ground highway ramp. Was that built and then covered with Copley Place?
To echo Ron, yes. here's a photo from 1977:



And the ground level floor plan for Copley Place clearly shows how the parking was arranged in and around the existing ramps:




** Look for a proper thread on Copley Place, and perhaps some more stuff on the Pru, in the somewhat-near future.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:00 AM   #14
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Quite a fascinating look at how modernist urban planning tried to overturn all the "rules" of city design that had accumulated over the centuries. Street walls replaced by plazas, mixed use replaced by single-use, density replaced by openess, small blocks replaced by megablocks... We've spent the last 30 years realizing why the old rules had come to be in the first place and trying to put back together what modernism had torn asunder.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:38 PM   #15
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After seeing the 1980's vintage renderings for the Pru center rebuild, I'm happy they weren't implemented. The 80's architecture envisioned is full of castle-like turrets and little sloped roofs scattered everywhere. That 80's architectural genre was an overdone, ornate and ugly reaction to the minimalist modernism of the 50's and 60's.

Thankfully the 1980's plan wasn't built. Sometimes procrastination is a good thing.
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Street walls replaced by plazas, mixed use replaced by single-use, density replaced by openess, small blocks replaced by megablocks...
To be fair, the original Prudential replaced mostly railroad yards, not "density" or "street walls" or "small blocks". And it was mixed-use: some offices, some apartments, some shopping, an auditorium, a hotel. Originally had an ice rink, too.
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Compared to Government Center, at least the Pru Center is gradually developing a more dense, urban fabric in both its interior spaces and along its exterior boundary. A street wall is gradually being developed along Boylston Street. Pru Center is filling in, unlike Government Center with its City Hall Plaza, a vast uninviting empty space with no real prospect of being filled in. The City could take a cue from the Pru Center on how to fill in Government Center.
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Re: Evolution of the Prudential Center: 1954-1989

Well lookie there....according to the 1985 master plan, 888 Boylston is shown as being over 300'.

There goes NABB and PruPac's story about this site from the dawn of time never contemplated to be over 180' (?).
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Re: Evolution of the Prudential Center: 1954-1989

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To be fair, the original Prudential replaced mostly railroad yards, not "density" or "street walls" or "small blocks". And it was mixed-use: some offices, some apartments, some shopping, an auditorium, a hotel. Originally had an ice rink, too.
That may be, but what Joe_Schmoe says is still true.
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