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Old 01-14-2016, 12:19 PM   #2621
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Any thonghts on where the GE corporate flight operation would be relocated (Logan, Hanscom) or stay put in Newburgh, NY.
Either way, we seem better "airported" than Fairfield, and they could choose either BOS or BED and, if location is important, have either be better-located than SWF/Newburgh, HPN/White Planes, or BDR/Bridgeport

But what does it mean to their ops that GE's flight dept is based at SWF/Newburgh? Is that location based on "where the planes are serviced" or "where the people fly from" kind of thing?

Do execs have to be driven from home to SWF, or do the planes hop to HPN/White Plains or BDR/Bridgeport to pick up execs? If there's nationwide empty deadheading being done from SWF to both HQ and divisional heads, then SWF might still be the best geographic center.

If it really is a exec-takes-limo-to-base operation focused on exec homes and work, then both BED (close to homes in the 'burbs) or BOS (super close to HQ and downtown "penthouses") seem like either is in a better position than SWF. I have to believe that their planes will spend tons of time at BOS even if they're not based there overnight.
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Old 01-14-2016, 12:23 PM   #2622
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Any thonghts on where the GE corporate flight operation would be relocated (Logan, Hanscom) or stay put in Newburgh, NY.
If they've got room (hangar space), Logan. That's a big bonus of having the HQ in the Seaport.
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:39 PM   #2623
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The pitch book offers GE an array of additional benefits: a hangar at Hanscom Air Force Base “to accommodate six airplanes for General Electric to fly to and from Logan International Airport,”...
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Old 01-15-2016, 07:21 AM   #2624
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Plus the city (and GE) will get a public helipad.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:21 AM   #2625
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GE is selling its appliance business to Haier. The two have also agreed to for a strategic partnership to collaborate in areas such as the internet, healthcare and advanced manufacturing. Pulled from this article: http://www.boston.com/business/techn...ure_stack_6_hp

This may provide a boost to the flights to Beijing or Shanghai.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:28 AM   #2626
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Plus the city (and GE) will get a public helipad.
Really? Where? I'd think that Logan being so close to downtown and both BED and BOS having good road access means that there's no market for a [standalone] "business" helipad anywhere.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:40 AM   #2627
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Officials said GE expressed particular interest in a helipad, which large New York-area companies commonly use to avoid traffic. GE, for example, uses helicopters to transport employees to its management training center along the Hudson River from near its current home in Fairfield, Conn.

Boston had a public helipad across from the Nashua Street Jail, but it was turned into a park as part of the Big Dig. The only other helipads in the city are at Logan International Airport and at hospitals.

Massport CEO Thomas Glynn said GE’s interest is stirring talk about building a new public helipad.

“Their interest in helipads might be the catalyst for getting a resolution on where one might be located,” Glynn said. “It would benefit the broader business community, and maybe also the tourism community.”
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:15 AM   #2628
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The bid proposes six state-owned sites in the Seaport for GE to locate, and first item listed for each one is "Helipad: Eligible".

Interestingly, it also lists 26 Court St as "Helipad: to be determined" and 185 Kneeland St as "Helipad: Eligible".

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Old 01-15-2016, 10:04 AM   #2629
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Re: Helipad: You can take the GE out of Connecticut, but you can't take the Connecticut out of GE. Sheesh.
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:17 PM   #2630
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Re: Helipad: You can take the GE out of Connecticut, but you can't take the Connecticut out of GE. Sheesh.
Arlington, a company the scale of GE with such far flung operations needs more than internet connectivity

The best model was the far smaller -- but equally spread-out operations of DEC

DEC operated a small fleet out of Hanscom and also ran helicopters between various facilities, Hanscom and Logan

My sister-in-law was a DEC factory automation engineer working out of Andover and DEC flew her by helicopter to a project in Westminster on a regular basis

GE has 5,000 Massachusetts employees in at least 5 other major facilities:
including two Division HQ's:
Life Science in Marlboro,
and the new one "Current" related to lighting and energy still looking for Boston Area location

Major other facilities are in Westborough, Foxboro and Lynn
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Old 01-16-2016, 11:22 AM   #2631
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There used to be a helipad on the top of the Motor Mart Garage on Stuart Street, Park Square. Skyways Helicopter Service operated from there to Logan for a brief period. But I do not see how that location would help GE.

http://airportjournals.com/john-sand...icopter-pilot/

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Old 01-16-2016, 01:35 PM   #2632
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There used to be a helipad on the top of the Motor Mart Garage on Stuart Street, Park Square. Skyways Helicopter Service operated from there to Logan for a brief period. But I do not see how that location would help GE.

http://airportjournals.com/john-sand...icopter-pilot/

Jeff -- I'm guessing that they would want a helipad on top of their building if at all possible

The problem might be with the interference with Logan approaches unless the helipad was either low or off the flight axis for a runway

The latter might cause a problem for 121 Seaport Blvd -- it footprint is just off the approaches for all 3 of the runways aligned in the general direction -- but is very close to the envelope for Runway 9
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Old 01-16-2016, 02:02 PM   #2633
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I believe that the pitch book just released states that all of the proposed sites in the Seaport district could accommodate a heliport. (The language though is pretty vague about what that means.)
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whighlander, you didn't read the city's / state's description of the helioport very closely. They said it would be a public helioport, not a private one, exclusively for GE.
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Old 01-17-2016, 09:18 AM   #2635
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If you book Norwegian flights using Norway as your home country, round trips to Oslo in March and April are available for under $300usd. $700 for premium economy. It's in Norwegian language and the currency is NOK, but it's pretty intuitive.

For example, if you depart 4/1, and return 4/9, flights are 2,018 NOK or $228.46 USD- round trip. Just select Norway as your country of origin. I think the flights to Guadeloupe and Martinique are similarly priced too. Same dates are $250 using the US version of the site, so it's not that big of a difference; but it's a difference.

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Old 01-17-2016, 09:59 AM   #2636
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If you book Norwegian flights using Norway as your home country, round trips to Oslo in March and April are available for under $300usd. $700 for premium economy. It's in Norwegian language and the currency is NOK, but it's pretty intuitive.

For example, if you depart 4/1, and return 4/9, flights are 2,018 NOK or $228.46 USD- round trip. Just select Norway as your country of origin. I think the flights to Guadeloupe and Martinique are similarly priced too. Same dates are $250 using the US version of the site, so it's not that big of a difference; but it's a difference.
Be very careful on your changing your point of sale... Some countries or some airlines may not let you board. I couldn't find a link to the story I read on this but one country in particular was Peru as noted in the link below. Supposedly verification of residency was required for lower fares.

You also should have a travel friendly credit card i.e one that doesn't charge foreign transaction fees.

http://maphappy.org/2014/06/use-poin...ional-tickets/
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Old 01-18-2016, 06:49 AM   #2637
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We could probably do a floating helipad on for point channel, would be a good central location for it.
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We could probably do a floating helipad on for point channel, would be a good central location for it.
Mongo -- Fort Point Channel for a heliport -- not likely unless it was on a barge -- I doubt that any helicopter pilot would want to land on that

However, there are still plenty of parking lots where a 30 foot circle could be mapped-out that wouldn't cause too much disruption
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Old 01-19-2016, 06:04 AM   #2639
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Mongo -- Fort Point Channel for a heliport -- not likely unless it was on a barge -- I doubt that any helicopter pilot would want to land on that

However, there are still plenty of parking lots where a 30 foot circle could be mapped-out that wouldn't cause too much disruption
I was thinking something like this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downto...attan_Heliport
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Old 01-19-2016, 08:23 AM   #2640
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Helipad is going to to be on top of a building, guys. Like at MGH.
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