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Old 05-21-2019, 03:10 PM   #2141
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Can we move the Casino Politics chat to a separate thread? I think it's worth discussion, but not in the development thread.
I disagree. Yes there are politics involved but the politics relate to the development itself, when it will open, what it will be called and what it will look like if not a Wynn property.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:26 AM   #2142
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Apparently MGM was uncomfortable with all the attention the preliminary sales talks with Wynn Resorts was getting, so they pulled out.
I'm sure Springfield is not feeling too confident about MGM's commitment anymore after this.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:45 AM   #2143
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Can we move the Casino Politics chat to a separate thread? I think it's worth discussion, but not in the development thread.
In Massachusetts development and politics are one and the same.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:50 AM   #2144
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A lawsuit claiming what exactly? Maddox is a clown. I was shocked (although I probably shouldn't have been) when the Gaming Commissioners asked him last month at the hearings to name one change Wynn has made with respect to its sexual harassment/assault policies since the Wall Street Journal article broke exposing the allegations against Steve Wynn. Maddox couldn't name a single one. Frankly, he is lucky that he was even found suitable to be one of the names on the Wynn license. There are very serious questions about what he knew about the Wynn rape allegations and the multiple multi-million dollar settlements with alleged victims.
A regulatory body imposing personal fines on an individual employee of a license holder with insufficient due process and then making up a training requirement out of thin air.

I admit I have disliked the Gaming Commission concept from the beginning, but I think this confirms that it was a mistake to set up a commission with such far reaching power to regulate thousands of people's livelihoods which isn't responsible to any elected executive.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:54 AM   #2145
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In Massachusetts development and politics are one and the same.
I believe that might have been Rifleman message until the ban.

How did the gaming commission not uncover that Wynn Corporation had assault charges against its CEO at the time? Wouldn't that be public record?

Also most of the side deals going on with all development deals can we honestly admit that most corporations have sometype of crimes against them? Your telling me that GE has not settled or has been accused of sometype of assault charges being in business for 100 years? Then our elected officials hand them a piece of prime real estate in the Seaport for peanuts.

Why would the city/state promote gambling but not actually support the industry without real infrastructure upgrades in around this area? I find this the most disturbing part of the situation. Also who gets the 35 Million? The victim or a group of scummy political hacks?


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Old 05-22-2019, 08:16 AM   #2146
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Apparently MGM was uncomfortable with all the attention the preliminary sales talks with Wynn Resorts was getting, so they pulled out.
I'm sure Springfield is not feeling too confident about MGM's commitment anymore after this.
It sounded like MGM could have been looking at this as a piece of a shell game... sell Springfield to Mohegan Sun to kill the Windsor CT proposal, then restart movement on a MGM Casino in Bridgeport, CT to better tap into the New York Metro market
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Old 05-22-2019, 11:05 AM   #2147
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A regulatory body imposing personal fines on an individual employee of a license holder with insufficient due process and then making up a training requirement out of thin air.

I admit I have disliked the Gaming Commission concept from the beginning, but I think this confirms that it was a mistake to set up a commission with such far reaching power to regulate thousands of people's livelihoods which isn't responsible to any elected executive.
I think you are missing the fact that not only is there a determination by the Gaming Commission as to the casino operator's suitability to hold a casino license, there is also a determination of the suitability of each of the high level employees that the licensee includes in its application. Maddox was of course among the dozen or so Wynn employees on the casino license application. That is why he can be fined individually after the Gaming Commission determined he was not in full compliance with all of their regulations. Wynn could have decided not to make Maddox once of its "qualifiers" in its application for the casino license.
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:23 PM   #2148
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Encore has been given the green light to serve alcohol until 4 am to those on the gaming floor actively gambling.
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Old 05-22-2019, 03:56 PM   #2149
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Encore has been given the green light to serve alcohol until 4 am to those on the gaming floor actively gambling.
Probably the right decision but so easy to take advantage of. Take a dollar bill and insert it into a penny slot machine (every casino has at least a few of those those right?) and play penny slots while you drink. Then you can drink from 2:00am-4:00am for relatively cheap.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:16 PM   #2150
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Probably the right decision but so easy to take advantage of. Take a dollar bill and insert it into a penny slot machine (every casino has at least a few of those those right?) and play penny slots while you drink. Then you can drink from 2:00am-4:00am for relatively cheap.
I mean why not if you have the cash and want something to do. Now the rest of the city needs this tbh
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:29 PM   #2151
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Finally a REAL bar in the Commonwealth.
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Old 05-22-2019, 07:52 PM   #2152
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Wow, that is great news. The challenge will be since all the bars in downtown close at 2am, there will a massive influx of drunk people at 2:30am raising hell and getting drunker. I hope the Encore people are able to effectively manage this until the novelty dies down and this can stay in effect, vs. things getting out of control, the plug gets pulled on 4am and we are back to square 1.

I think this could be a good test case for Boston as a whole. If this works, it can be used as evidence that Boston's bars can stay open later than 2am.
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:32 AM   #2153
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Until 4am is closing time for dive bars this is no victory. When the barflies and strike-outs can sip a Bud until the birds start chirping, then Boston will surely be able to call itself a world-class city.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:52 AM   #2154
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I would be satisfied if the bars just open to 3 AM.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:18 AM   #2155
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I would be satisfied if the bars just open to 3 AM.
Bars should be allowed to stay open until 3:30 am on Thursdays, Fridays, Saturdays and the night before a federal holiday. Have last call be at 2:45 am or 3:00 am then then let people have 30-45 minutes to finish up their drinks and then leave.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:55 PM   #2156
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I think you are missing the fact that not only is there a determination by the Gaming Commission as to the casino operator's suitability to hold a casino license, there is also a determination of the suitability of each of the high level employees that the licensee includes in its application. Maddox was of course among the dozen or so Wynn employees on the casino license application. That is why he can be fined individually after the Gaming Commission determined he was not in full compliance with all of their regulations. Wynn could have decided not to make Maddox once of its "qualifiers" in its application for the casino license.
I don't think I am missing that... the "suitability" thing is a big red flag in terms of the rule of law. Having a law setting up a commission accountable to no one that can make all sorts of arbitrary decisions over a cash cow artificial monopoly where billions of dollars are at stake. It was like they decided to look at Vegas' regulatory framework and said "hmm... how can we make this more susceptible to corruption"
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:01 PM   #2157
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Finally a REAL bar in the Commonwealth.
Except the bars at Encore will still close at 2. The 4am is just for people at the tables and slots who are actively gambling.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:28 PM   #2158
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Except the bars at Encore will still close at 2. The 4am is just for people at the tables and slots who are actively gambling.
Just start partying around the Mystic river. What time can you start drinking again if last call is 4am? 6am
22-Hour party scene

That's what I call Magic-time.
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Old 05-23-2019, 04:12 PM   #2159
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well then head to the penny slots get a drink and then stop playing as soon as you have your drink, a little gambling tax of a few cents to get yourself a drink at 3am
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Old 05-31-2019, 09:16 PM   #2160
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