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Old 06-11-2019, 03:19 PM   #1421
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Re: New Red and Orange Line Cars

Looks like one of the Red Line cars are sleeping on the job!! These cars are old!! The oldest in the system, just behind the PCC trolleys used for the Mattapan High-Speed Line !!


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Old 06-17-2019, 11:05 AM   #1422
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The Springfield/CRRC spying scare issue made it into the Financial Times' Big Read today. FT has a paywall, but in case anyone who does have an account is interested (I assume making a "gift link" public will get my account suspended, if detected, so the regular paywall link is below). In any case, there's nothing particularly new in the article, but it's an ok summary of things.

https://www.ft.com/content/37c3a1f8-...1-51bf8f989972
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Old 06-17-2019, 12:28 PM   #1423
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That is neither here or there. CRRC is going to aim for getting the new railcars done as promised to the MBTA & the other cities that have ordered them.
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Old 06-17-2019, 09:14 PM   #1424
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Here's a vid of the mockup for the New York subway cars. Still don't know who will be making them though.


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Old 06-17-2019, 10:27 PM   #1425
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Here's a vid of the mockup for the New York subway cars. Still don't know who will be making them though.


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Old 06-17-2019, 11:09 PM   #1426
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Back on topic, here's a video of the Orange line pilot testing and actually opening it's doors and saying the station announcement... Also completely unscientific observation that they seems to accelerate after closing the doors far quicker than the current trains can.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ndbip_off...56389463519232
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:10 AM   #1427
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Back on topic, here's a video of the Orange line pilot testing and actually opening it's doors and saying the station announcement... Also completely unscientific observation that they seems to accelerate after closing the doors far quicker than the current trains can.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ndbip_off...56389463519232
It is missing about 300,000 pounds of people who would normally be on it. Iím genuinely not sure if that is significant or not.
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:28 AM   #1428
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It is missing about 300,000 pounds of people who would normally be on it. Iím genuinely not sure if that is significant or not.
One of the recent presentations to the FMCB has a picture of bus in testing - they fill them with barrels of sand to simulate the weight of the passengers. I assume they do the same with the trains when it matters.
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:29 AM   #1429
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Back on topic, here's a video of the Orange line pilot testing and actually opening it's doors and saying the station announcement... Also completely unscientific observation that they seems to accelerate after closing the doors far quicker than the current trains can.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ndbip_off...56389463519232
Neat. Though I would fail them on the test as the left hand doors shouldn't have opened as there is no center platform.
But, that's why it's a test and not a revenue run.
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Old 06-18-2019, 07:58 AM   #1430
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Neat. Though I would fail them on the test as the left hand doors shouldn't have opened as there is no center platform.
But, that's why it's a test and not a revenue run.
There was no side platform either.. the platforms at dtx are staggered. Also believe operator doors are still manually controlled (even though there might be a option for auto-operation with CBTC down the road)?
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:50 AM   #1431
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Neat. Though I would fail them on the test as the left hand doors shouldn't have opened as there is no center platform.
But, that's why it's a test and not a revenue run.
Probably intentional so passengers don't try to board the test train, no?
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:09 AM   #1432
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One of the recent presentations to the FMCB has a picture of bus in testing - they fill them with barrels of sand to simulate the weight of the passengers. I assume they do the same with the trains when it matters.

Yup...sandbags. More of the weight on any given transit vehicle is tied up in water and carbon held together by human flesh than is ever accounted for by steel and electromechanical parts, so empty testing doesn't even come close to simulating real performance under load.
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:25 AM   #1433
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It is missing about 300,000 pounds of people who would normally be on it. Iím genuinely not sure if that is significant or not.
I was also just referring to the delay the current trains have in between the hiss of the brakes being released and any motion actually occurring, its a solid 4-5 seconds to get the current ones to even start moving, improved acceleration aside
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:34 AM   #1434
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Two trivial observations:
-This is an obvious maintenance-minded decision but I wish the doors had been painted with the orange bar. The discontinuity is displeasing, but it's not a big deal.
-The station announcements have been re-recorded. The tell for me is that there's no gap before "Forest Hills", there's usually about a quarter-second pause before the station name in the destination announcement.
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:02 AM   #1435
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ndbip_off...56389463519232

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Old 06-18-2019, 10:12 AM   #1436
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Works fine for me

As for the color, still think we picked the most boring of the three designs...
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Works fine for me

As for the color, still think we picked the most boring of the three designs...
It seems like there's a benefit to the boring design in that most of the color is whole pieces of the shell, meaning that they can be enameled or whatever and will hold that color longer. The one to the right seems like it would have peeled over time...
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:49 AM   #1438
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I'm OK with boring if its in mass transit.
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:53 AM   #1439
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Boston Mayor Marty Walsh is asking the MBTA to postpone fair hike due to derailment on Red Line.


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Boston Mayor Marty Walsh is asking the MBTA to postpone fair hike due to derailment on Red Line.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...K0L/story.html
Was never going to happen. He's just trying to save face after the horrible Globe article in which he seemed to be clueless about transportation planning, and he sees Michelle Wu coming up in the rearview mirror.
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