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Old 12-21-2016, 08:36 PM   #181
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This system is priceless. The democrats who are supposed be for the working man.

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Rich people are sometimes Democrats and sometimes want to run for office? This must mean that the Democrats hate the working class! Shame! Shame!
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Old 12-22-2016, 10:16 AM   #182
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From what I've seen, one of the primary jobs of a state party chair is to raise money, and in a state like Florida, they need a lot of it. Who better to do that than a guy with deep pockets and a rolodex full of similarly deep-pocketed individuals?
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Old 12-30-2016, 10:26 AM   #183
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OBAMA looks like a Disaster at this point with these Russian Sanctions.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...laming-russia/

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For all you Democrats I would say this party is finished. And I actually thought the Republicans were going to divide into a 3rd party with all their hypocritical cronies.

1.5 Billion the Clintons spent on this election.
Now the Democratic Donors are calling in an AUDIT or they will never invest in the DNC ever again.

What a bunch of criminals.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...-mortem-232715

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Old 12-30-2016, 12:06 PM   #184
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Rifle, I can see where you got your writing style from after visiting that Armstrong site. Happy to see you dont just regurgitate exactly what you read, ha.

Putting that quote after the politico link is disingenuous at best as its from the Armstrong site not Politico, the one with at least some shred of accountability. When you put a quote after a link, everyone is going to assume that quote is from the link directly above it
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:25 PM   #185
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I am going to pile on, because frankly this week was quite validating. Even my parents, who both voted for Hillary and despise Trump, are starting to see what I see with the current Democratic party. We are all disgusted.

As most of you probably know by now, Obama is the first president in US history who has failed to publicly support Israel. Here is the current front-headline article on Yahoo. It's about Britain scolding Kerry and "edging towards Trump."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/britain-s...081447109.html

Good quote: "This [Obama] administation's policy has left the Middle East up in flames," Bennett said after Kerry's speech. "The one free democracy has been thrown under the bus - and that's Israel."

Here's another good article from the Washington Post. It basically encapsulates my opinion that ultra-liberal millennial college students (basically 18-25 range) are the new wave of anti-semites.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.897a6e427c1e

It's important to note that the Jewish students are specifically named as not being a part of these demands. Also, DZH22 does not attend this university, has never attended this university, and has no connections to the Jewish population at this university. In short, I had no influence on this article and am more in line with the Jewish community than many of you think I am. (or should be)

By the way, unless you are Jewish, I ask that you refrain from making false equivalencies. We have our own, very specific set of problems and it is in the best interest of Jews everywhere to abandon the Democratic party. It's unfortunate because I used to like that party.

We are lucky that the new Cold War with Russia should be over in 3 weeks. I cannot speak to other problems we may encounter (cough, offending people via twitter, cough) but am thankful that this likely won't be one of them.

I am proud to say that I voted to stand with Israel, against Hillary, and against rampant globalism. I can look in the mirror and know that I stuck to my convictions, even when it meant "switching sides" from my historical voting record. The Democrats were not who I thought they were.
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:37 PM   #186
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Another article at the top of Yahoo. "Anthony Bourdain slams ‘privileged’ liberals for ‘utter contempt’ of working class." This guy gets it. I appreciate and respect this type of introspection. (regardless of party affiliation)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/anthony-b...151215285.html
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Old 12-30-2016, 12:40 PM   #187
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There are lots of variants of this floating around. I found this one unattributed on FB. Probably the one that matches my feelings the best.

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"No, I think less of you because you watched an adult mock a disabled person while addressing a crowd and still supported him. I think less of you because you saw a candidate spout clear racism day after day and still backed him. I think less of you because you heard him advocate for war crimes and still thought he should be given the reins of government. I think less of you because you watched him equate a woman's worth to where she landed on a scale of 1 to 10 and still got on board. I think less of you because you stood by silently while he labeled Mexicans as criminals and Muslims as terrorists.

"It wasn't your politics I found repulsive. No, it was your willingness to support someone who spouts racism, sexism, and cruelty almost every time he opens his mouth. You sided with a bully when it should have mattered most, and that is something I will never be able to forget.

"So in response to your post-election expression of hope, no, you and I won't be 'coming together to move forward.' Obviously, the president-elect disgusts me; but it is the fact that he doesn't disgust you that will stick with me long after the election."
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:08 PM   #188
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Statler---Good Comment I agree:

The reason why I supported the person who made fun of the disabled person vs the group that has no accountability and that are a bunch of Hypocrites.

love him or hate him---Trump is a real person--- The political lifers in Washington at this point are as low as child molesters-- They are pretty much the biggest hypocrites I have ever seen. Washington lifers believe they are smarter and entitle compared to the American People.

Let me say this " Michelle Obama claims when they go low we go high" Yeah like hanging out with Jay-Z and Beyoncé.

That is the difference, being White, Black, Green, Red, Mexican, Caucasian, Indian, Pakistan, MiddleEastern, Chinese, Japanese ECT. Trump at the end of the day does not give a shit what a person looks like. Can you get the job done? Bottom line. This guy is about action not about hurting peoples feelings.

We live in a very insentive world,-- get over it --at least he acknowledge the disabled person. The liberals would have just walked right over him like he didn't matter to society.
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Old 12-30-2016, 01:42 PM   #189
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The scorched Earth campaign of the outgoing posotus was predicted 6~7 years ago.

America's 8 year long nightmare will be over soon.....


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Old 12-30-2016, 04:57 PM   #190
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1. tree grows, pulls massive amounts of carbon from the air.... ...man (#deplorables) burns tree in his mancave. puts some carbon back in the air. New tree grows (wood cultivated by man or nature for future generation/s).... pulls carbon back out of the air...

#burning wood is 100% solar energy.

2. tree grows, pulls massive amounts of carbon from the air ....tree dies, rots, puts carbon, gasoil, wood esters, etc back in the air while new tree grows.... esters released to atmosphere found to harm ozone layer.

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Another example of how many government agencies are populated by incompetent morons and why many should be scaled back, realigned....
Trump!

http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/30/...ood-keep-warm/

EPA To Alaskans In Sub-Zero Temps: Stop Burning Wood To Keep Warm

In Alaska’s interior, where it can reach -50 degrees Fahrenheit in winter, the EPA wants people to stop burning wood. But it's just about their only feasible way to stay warm.

In Jack London’s famous short story, “To Build A Fire,” a man freezes to death because he underestimates the cold in America’s far north and cannot build a proper fire. The unnamed man—a chechaquo, what Alaska natives call newcomers—is accompanied by a wolf-dog that knows the danger of the cold and is wholly indifferent to the fate of the man. “This man did not know cold. Possibly, all the generations of his ancestry had been ignorant of cold, of real cold, of cold 107 degrees below freezing point. But the dog knew; all its ancestry knew, and it had inherited the knowledge.”

If only the bureaucrats in Washington DC knew what the wolf-dog knew. But alas, now comes the federal government to tell the inhabitants of Alaska’s interior that, really, they should not be building fires to keep themselves warm during the winter. The New York Times reports the Environmental Protection Agency could soon declare the Alaskan cities of Fairbanks and North Pole, which have a combined population of about 100,000, in “serious” noncompliance of the Clean Air Act early next year.

Like most people in Alaska, the residents of those frozen cities are burning wood to keep themselves warm this winter. Smoke from wood-burning stoves increases small-particle pollution, which settles in low-lying areas and can be breathed in. The EPA thinks this is a big problem. Eight years ago, the agency ruled that wide swaths of the most densely populated parts of the region were in “non-attainment” of federal air quality standards.

That prompted state and local authorities to look for ways to cut down on pollution from wood-burning stoves, including the possibility of fining residents who burn wood. After all, a declaration of noncompliance from the EPA would have enormous economic implications for the region, like the loss of federal transportation funding.

The problem is, there’s no replacement for wood-burning stoves in Alaska’s interior. Heating oil is too expensive for a lot of people, and natural gas isn’t available. So they’ve got to burn something. The average low temperature in Fairbanks in December is 13 degrees below zero. In January, it’s 17 below. During the coldest days of winter, the high temperature averages -2 degrees, and it can get as cold as -60. This is not a place where you play games with the cold. If you don’t keep the fire lit, you die. For people of modest means, and especially for the poor, that means you burn wood in a stove—and you keep that fire lit around the clock.

As Necessary As Food And Water

Growing up in Alaska, I learned this from an early age. (My father, in fact, was a chechaquo. As a white kid growing up in Alaska native villages in the 1950s, the native kids would call him and his siblings chechaquos as a kind of juvenile epithet.) Like many families in Alaska, then and now, we weren’t wealthy and had no other means of staying warm besides burning wood. As kids, my brothers and I would spend long hours stacking cords of wood and, when we were older, felling trees, cutting them into logs, and hauling them back to the house. It wasn’t romantic, it was simply part of life in the far north: firewood was as natural and necessary as food and water.

For most Alaskans, it still is. Replacing wood-burning stoves, especially in the state’s interior, isn’t easily done. Ever since the EPA’s ruling in 2008, local and state efforts to address air pollution caused by wood stoves hasn’t solved the problem. As the editors of the Fairbanks newspaper recently noted, “The borough faces two unpalatable alternatives: More stringent restrictions on home heating devices that could impact residents’ ability to heat their homes affordably, or choosing to stand pat and accept a host of costly economic sanctions and health effects to residents.”

Local residents have been assured that of course the government means well. According to the Times, the EPA official in charge claims that “his agency was definitely not trying to take away anyone’s wood stove, or make life more expensive.” But he also said the EPA’s job is to enforce air quality standards set by the Clean Air Act. The implication is clear: these wood stoves are going to be a problem.

This of course is a ridiculous situation. The EPA has no business telling Alaskans they shouldn’t burn wood to keep warm in the depths of winter. For one thing, concern over air pollution from wood smoke is misplaced. The high levels of particulate matter in places like Fairbanks in January are not the same thing as smog in Los Angeles. The areas affected by pollution from wood stoves are relatively small because they’re the result of something called inversion. At -30 degrees Fahrenheit, smoke doesn’t rise. It drops down to ground level and settles in low-lying areas. But this doesn’t happen city-wide, it happens on a single block or street.

That doesn’t mean people living on that street aren’t affected. But it does mean we aren’t talking about pollution-laced fog descending on an entire city; we’re talking about burning wood to stay warm. If that means you must endure some air pollution from the smoke from time to time, then that’s the price of living in a place like Alaska’s frozen interior. (Full disclosure: I plan to build a cabin in Alaska someday, and I plan to heat it with a wood stove, fully aware that doing so might sometimes subject me to higher levels of particulate pollution. I say it’s worth the risk.)

The problem with the EPA bullying the people of Fairbanks about their wood stoves is that the federal government thinks this is a problem that can be solved. What would the EPA have Alaskans do, use solar panels to heat their homes in winter?

In his story, Jack London wrote of the chechaquo that “The trouble with him was that he was without imagination.” That is, he simply didn’t understand the cold, or where exactly he was:

He was quick and alert in the things of life, but only in the things, and not in the significances. Fifty degrees below zero meant 80 odd degrees of frost. Such facts impressed him as being cold and uncomfortable, and that was all. It did not lead him to meditate upon his frailty as a creature of temperature, and upon man’s frailty in general, able only to live within certain narrow limits of heat and cold; and from there on, it did not lead him to the conjectural field of immortality and man’s place in the universe.

Of the earnest bureaucrats at the EPA fretting over the smoke from Alaskans’ wood stoves in the dead of winter, we might say something similar: they understand facts but not the significance of them. Burning wood when it’s -20 degrees outside will indeed cause the smoke to descend, and breathing such air is admittedly not very healthy. What the EPA doesn’t accept, or even grasp, is man’s place in the universe: in the face of Alaska’s deadly cold interior, there’s only so much we can do. So we build a fire.

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Man, this thread is one hell of a bizarro alternate-reality.
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Man, this thread is one hell of a bizarro alternate-reality.
Couldn't agree more.
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Old 12-30-2016, 07:35 PM   #194
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Rennlist OT: Porsche, Ferrari owners, racing enthusiasts, etc... overall, funniest badasses on the interwebs....

P&C is a slightly more eclectic group from the >100,000 members.....



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So basically you have no values to speak of and your political ideology is entirely derived from the inane rantings of a bunch of used car enthusiasts.
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I hope this isn't true:

California's SB 1322 bill legalizes Sex with Minors
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It's happening. Looks like the California, Hollywood pedophilia ring is scared after all the Pizzagate investigation. This bill makes it so "a child prostitute cannot be arrested for soliciting sex and to protect child sex trafficking", in their words, but the complete opposite is true. This means is child prostitution is now legal there and it is easier to child sex traffic now. The media has a ton of articles viciously defending, saying "No, it's not legal pedophilia", but it absolutely is. They've made it harder to rescue these kids. If an old man is caught with a 12 year old prostitute, the prostitute cannot be taken away under the law now.
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Old 12-31-2016, 03:25 PM   #197
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California's SB 1322 bill legalizes Sex with Minors


Totally false.
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Oh, hey, a serious reference to Pizzagate, and stepping up fake news sources to a Youtube video. This thread is off the charts.
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OBAMA looks like a Disaster at this point with these Russian Sanctions.

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...laming-russia/



For all you Democrats I would say this party is finished. And I actually thought the Republicans were going to divide into a 3rd party with all their hypocritical cronies.

1.5 Billion the Clintons spent on this election.
Now the Democratic Donors are calling in an AUDIT or they will never invest in the DNC ever again.

What a bunch of criminals.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...-mortem-232715
As opposed to being a puppet of the Russian country and allowing them to do whatever they want? To be honest, Obama looks stronger by standing up to the enemy. Trump tweet on praising Putin makes him look like a ass kisser, one not strong enough to stand up to Russia and a president willing to sell the US out to Russia. Glad Trump wasn't president during the actual Cold War. He would have kowtowed to the Soviets at every front.
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This thread is amazing.

Happy 2017!
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