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Old 01-19-2013, 10:12 PM   #121
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Sorry if this isn't exactly about the future Quincy, but this was the most relevant thread I could find to post this. It's a comparison from today of the 1880 Adams Building in 1902 and 2013. Remarkably few features have been altered.

FYI- the 1902 photo is printed large, located in the central lobby. As many of you know, this building will remain intact through the developments. Enjoy!



Highest resolution (5900 pixels across) here --> http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcsenger/8395209525

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Old 06-20-2013, 11:11 PM   #122
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:45 AM   #123
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I was visiting the joke shop on Hancock St on Wednesday. I was surprised at how much had been demolished.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:18 AM   #124
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Every time I walk by and notice that joke shop, I ask myself "how is that still open"? And, now I know.

I know it's not Boston rents, but I remember the Jack Stein's closing and thinking the same. How did those stay open as long as they did?
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:55 AM   #125
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Every time I walk by and notice that joke shop, I ask myself "how is that still open"?
Everytime the landlord opens the door to collect rent, a boxing glove loaded on a spring shoots out and punches him in the face, sending him right back out the door.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:02 PM   #126
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^ Thanks, that made my lunch break
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:36 PM   #127
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Every time I walk by and notice that joke shop, I ask myself "how is that still open"? And, now I know.

I know it's not Boston rents, but I remember the Jack Stein's closing and thinking the same. How did those stay open as long as they did?


Fake vomit and novelty dog poop never go out of style.
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Old 06-21-2013, 11:01 PM   #128
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I believe these are the buildings under construction here (the Kilroy and Granite Trust Lofts):

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Old 06-23-2013, 01:33 AM   #129
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I like that a lot.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:54 AM   #130
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Don't mean to be a wet blanket but all they've done is tear those buildings down. They've torn other buildings down in the last couple years and nothing has gone back up.

I'll try to get some pictures but it looks like they're building a new YMCA and another building not far from quincy center
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:45 AM   #131
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The palladian windows are out of scale, but overall I like what they are going for. Hope something happens
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:54 AM   #132
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LOVE that tower in the last picture. Notice that it even has Juliet balconies in the front. They really should carry the same facade language to the back instead of just drenching it in white (and what is that green??).
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:06 PM   #133
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Groundbreaking was held yesterday. There's a bunch of stuff about it in the Globe, including this:







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http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/...hyN/story.html


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Old 06-25-2013, 04:19 PM   #134
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I bet Malden is watching this closely. Lowell and Worcester too.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:57 PM   #135
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Great overall project for Quincy but I would argue for more density. Once you're outside the downtown core there are lots of surface parking lots and single/two family homes so this is their once in a lifetime chance to get it right.

Architecture will be mostly historicist caricature (like Assembly Square.) Mayor Koch has publicly stated that he likes new buildings to look "old". New England provincialism can run so unbelievably deep.

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Old 06-26-2013, 03:11 PM   #136
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Architecture will be mostly historicist caricature (like Assembly Square.) Mayor Koch has publicly stated that he likes new buildings to look "old". New England provincialism can run so unbelievably deep.
Ugh. It so rarely, rarely works. Especially when you step inside and you're (often) faced with surroundings that have no relationship with the exterior motif. Four white walls, white drop ceiling and beige carpet.

Even the most sterile rehabs of historic structures almost inevitably feature some of the original DNA pervading every space. Trying to approximate it in new construction just results in a huge discontinuity most of the time.
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:03 PM   #137
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Great overall project for Quincy but I would argue for more density. Once you're outside the downtown core there are lots of surface parking lots and single/two family homes so this is their once in a lifetime chance to get it right.
I could see a spine of higher density development growing up along the Red Line, without touching any of those single/two family homes. Particularly in Granite Plaza.
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:07 PM   #138
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Quincy’s $1.6 billion renovation of downtown begins
Project will create a ‘dense and vertical’ downtown



By Casey Ross
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June 25, 2013

In the annals of downtown redevelopment in Massachusetts, the city of Quincy is striking a dramatically different tone.

A $1.6 billion rebuilding effort that officially began Monday features towering structures that are seldom seen in communities outside Boston. In addition to traditional storefronts and commercial offices, those buildings are designed to bring hundreds of new residents into Quincy Center — a place developers hope will stand on its own as exciting city destination.

“This will be the most urban environment you can find outside of Boston itself,” said Ken Narva, cofounding partner of Street-Works LLC, the project’s lead developer. “There will be a lot of tall buildings. It’s going to be dense and vertical, but it will also be intimate at the street level.”

The first phase of construction will result in a 15-story residential building, the city’s tallest structure. It will also develop a cluster of new stores and restaurants. The restoration of a nine-story commercial building will create new offices and a residential wing with loft-style apartments.

Developers and city officials hope the work will set the tone for a broader transformation of the city’s downtown, bringing 3.5 million square feet of new construction over the next seven years. The project, among the largest proposed in Massachusetts, is expected to include several office buildings, 700,000 square feet of retail stores, two hotels, 1,400 residential units, and multiple parking garages with about 5,000 spaces. Some of the buildings could be as tall as 20 stories.

Street-Works is codeveloping the property with Related/Beal Cos. of Boston. Suffolk Construction is serving as the general contractor. The City of Quincy has committed to invest nearly $290 million in public infrastructure improvements associated with the project, along with millions of dollars in grants from state and federal agencies.

The project amounts to a massive bet that Quincy’s tired downtown can become a destination again by reasserting its identity as a city — a strategy that breaks from decades of efforts to make urban centers feel more like shopping malls.

“They are not just tinkering with the city here, they are creating an entirely new downtown,” said Vincent Costantini, chief executive of The Roseview Group, a Boston-based real estate investment and advisory firm. “It’s a very bold and gutsy vision.”

The upcoming construction will take place in concert with the development of the new Adams Green public space, which will include the resting places of Presidents John Adams and John Quincy Adams and their wives, and will link the project’s new retail stores to the nearby MBTA Red Line station.

Narva said the first wave of retail, to be called Merchant’s Row, will focus heavily on bringing new restaurants to the downtown. “We’ll have everything from coffee to fine dining to fast casual,” he said. “This will make Quincy an anchor for food not just on the South Shore, but across the region.”

The new restaurants will be accompanied in the first phase by 287 new residences to be spread between a 15-story residential building called The Kilroy and a 56-unit loft complex connected to the Granite Trust Building. That work is scheduled for completion in 2014.

Mayor Thomas P. Koch of Quincy said the new buildings will bring outdoor dining spots and new living options that will make Quincy Center attractive to young professionals who crave the convenience and activity level of urban life.

“This younger generation likes to work and play in the same area,” Koch said. “We’re going to have beautiful buildings and public spaces that will make us a destination, not just a place for people to drop in for an hour.”

The first phase will be followed by construction of offices to be marketed to medical and educational tenants, more than 1,000 additional residences, hotels, and stores.

While Monday’s groundbreaking was filled with optimism, the city’s transformation will probably take many years due to changing real estate cycles and the inevitable delays associated with such a massive construction project. Costantini said the developers and public officials — along with the city’s residents — will need to have a lot of patience and nerve to see it through to the end.

“If they pull this off, it will be great for the City of Quincy,” he said. “It will be a monumental transformation that rarely happens in American today, so you’ve got to wish them luck.”
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:20 PM   #139
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Just a general consensus, how confident are the members here that this project will succeed? I'm looking at buying a house or condo in the Quincy/Braintree area, and I sure wouldn't mind if Quincy started gentrifying shortly after we bought a place.
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:55 PM   #140
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Just a general consensus, how confident are the members here that this project will succeed? I'm looking at buying a house or condo in the Quincy/Braintree area, and I sure wouldn't mind if Quincy started gentrifying shortly after we bought a place.
Honestly, I'm confident. I'd say scale of 1-10, I'm at about a 7.5-8.
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