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Old 06-10-2019, 02:36 PM   #61
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Re: Office Tower | 125 Lincoln St | Leather District

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Gensler gonna Gensler...
Why design a new building when you can stretch one you've already designed a short distance away? If this were a spectacular tower I think it would have a much better chance with the Leather District residents. As is, it is rewarmed Hub on Causeway.
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Old 06-10-2019, 03:13 PM   #62
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...the proportions stink. In the above diagram, chop off 20% of the width from the right side, then make it ~550'. That's what should be encouraged.....
The irony; after the Harbor Garage, i can't see single parcel in the city including the Midtown Hotel, Lord & Taylor etc, where we'll see anything taller than this (370') proposed for the next few decades. There's nothing. The cement garbage Downtown doesn't seem to be going anywhere anytime soon. Most of what's left in the West End is too close to Beacon Hill. Then, we've seen; everything outside Downtown, West End, Midtown area is 200~300'.
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:17 PM   #63
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Why design a new building when you can stretch one you've already designed a short distance away? If this were a spectacular tower I think it would have a much better chance with the Leather District residents. As is, it is rewarmed Hub on Causeway.
They might as well refresh an existing one they worked on, as they know there is no way this thing will be approved, as currently proportioned. Why waste money? They will redesign once they figure out how much over 100' the neighborhood will give them.

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https://boston.curbed.com/boston-dev...lincoln-street

"Opponents, however, point to the city’s 2010 Greenway Planning Study, which specifically mandates a much shorter project on the site, which includes a block-long garage, retail, and restaurants. (Oxford Properties bought 125 Lincoln in 2017 for $39.5 million.) From the study:

Because of the length of its frontage on the Greenway, the Lincoln Street Garage Site, if redeveloped, could profoundly affect the character of the Chinatown Park and the adja- cent Beach Street Crossroad. The southwest corner of the property, in particular, presents a significant challenge to the legibility of the Beach Street corridor, as the active uses on Beach and Lincoln Streets are segregated from the intersection by a very active garage entry.

Future additions or redevelopment of this site will be limited to 100’ by the high potential for shadows cast on the park. Development here should align with the 80’/100’ heights of the existing Leather District fabric and should reinforce the existing character and scale of the neighborhood.

Or, as Christopher Betke, chairman of the Leather District Neighborhood Associaton, put it more succinctly in an email, there is no law or other regulation “that supports such a massive, out-of-proportion building on this site. To build this here, one has to literally disregard every law or urban planning that came before. ...This building will effectively block the sky to our residents, build a wall between us and our neighbors, and bury the Chinatown Greenway Park in shadow."
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:54 PM   #64
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This City is very confused about its zoning--especially in the context of long term planning where ancient neighborhoods abut its somewhat congested core. This lot is 400' from Dewey Square's 600' tower. America's cities' downtown's will tend to expand after a given number of years. It's just the order of things. This Downtown hasn't expanded an inch in 100 years. 370' is a compromise step up that respects (well) the scale of Chinatown and the Leather District where it meets Downtown.

The splendor of having a green patch here in the middle of the dense core is that it rests at the base of a deep steel and glass canyon. That's as much the point. It's situated perfectly to be a Downtown canyon park like Post Office Square.

i know there's people in this Town who want to keep re-setting 'stupid.' But, making that the Greenway precludes building height for hundreds of feet in all directions--takes the cake. It's idiotic groups such as this that caused no takers for the DOT parcels.

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This is proposed as-of-right, correct? These people need to calm the fuck down.
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America's cities' downtown's will tend to expand after a given number of years. It's just the order of things. This Downtown hasn't expanded an inch in 100 years.
This is completely untrue.
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This is proposed as-of-right, correct? These people need to calm the fuck down.
According to the LOI, it has to go to before the Zoning Board of Appeals. Not sure for what.
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They're absolutely flipping out on Twitter.
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The parking garage had more of a swinging 60’s feel before the facade panels were stripped off and other “improvements” made. It wasn’t awful!
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According to the LOI, it has to go to before the Zoning Board of Appeals. Not sure for what.
Oh, never mind then, opponents will have their way with this proposal and I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that the BPDA requires it to adhere to the 2010 Greenway Planning Study, as cited in the Curbed article above. Sucks for Oxford, although I am sure they factored these variables into the price they agreed to pay to acquire the parcel.
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Unfortunately, with a height reduction, this will end up as just another block gobbling ground hog.
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