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Re: New Red and Orange Line Cars
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Yep. They have 600V DC overhead, same voltage as all Boston trolley/LRV, heavy rail, and trackless trolley vehicles throughout history. And have their tracks ground to the same wheel profile as all Boston rapid transit vehicles throughout history.
2 ways of running a third-rail vehicle on their tracks:
For pantograph vehicles incompatible with the trolley pole wire hangers they just replace the roof-mount pantograph with a stock trolley pole. The Blue Line 0600's and Boeing LRV's that they have run direct on poles even though that wasn't their configuration in Boston. Same thing will happen when they eventually get their Type 7's and Type 8's. Parade of various Boston rolling stock, from 2017. . . https://youtu.be/SW314gpAmv8?t=67 1. Orange Line 01000 (retired '62) 2. MTA PCC being pushed by Red Line 014000's (this is how Mattapan PCC's used to be ferried through the subway to Harvard Shops for servicing) 3. Blue 0600's |
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One of the slides in the "Orange Line Improvements" presentation at today's FMCB meeting suggested that Orange Line trains could operate at 60 MPH between Malden Center and Wellington once the Charles and Adams Street bridges are upgraded.
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What is the current max?
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The fastest subway trains that I've been on are the ones in Washington, DC. Those trains really FLY!!! That is because there are longer distances between the subway stations.
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If you've got a non-blocked cab window view, you can see the speedometer from the end seats (including in the non-occupied cabs). On Orange and the older Red cars it's an analog dial; on the Red 01800's it's digital. You can ascertain what the ATO signal system is enforcing as the speed limit by watching the speedometer during acceleration, and feeling the propulsion ease up by 1 MPH when it hits track speed (e.g. the digital readout on the 01800's will show a throttle to 49 MPH instead of 50 MPH, and you might see a slight bounce/re-settle on the analog dials).
Central-Kendall is one of the easiest places to see this in action, though same phenomenon is in action everywhere on both lines where trains rev up to coded track speed in regular service. |
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It has been a while since I rode on the lead car of the Red, Orange or Blue.
Most of the time, the platforms are so packed with commuters that I don't even try to get up there for fear that all that running & killing myself may be a waste!! |
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You can do it/see it in any of the cabs in the train, not just the lead car.
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I would like to try getting aboard one of the new trains, but U know it'll be next to zero to try, until more of them come online for revenue service.
Everyone will be overly anxious to try them out, at lease for the first few months or so as they whisk threw the station platforms! ![]() |
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I wonder exactly when the new cars will begin being delivered to the MBTA.
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Revised date for revenue service with the 8 pilot cars currently on the property is after New Year's. |
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Thanks.
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I read that January 19 is when the T will put the first several new cars into revenue service on the Orange line. Anyone else?
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NETransit hasn't confirmed it, so I'm skeptical.
There will likely be a dignitaries-invite inaugural run, but it'll be on no more than a few days' notice to rule out last-minute technical snags or a snow forecast. They may be shooting for third week of Jan., but it's improbable they've got a firm date set a full month out. |
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There will l probably be a ribbon-cutting ceremony amongst the officials, dignitaries & all, with comments from the passengers. That may take time to set up.
The inaugural run would get the most publicity. Almost like when a brand new jetliner makes its inaugural flight for the first time ![]() |
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Ive seen old green line cars being shipped out of the city on tractor trailers surrounded by police cruisers 3 times now going from the pike to 128. Idk what this means, but maybe the new trains are coming?
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