archBOSTON.org

Go Back   archBOSTON.org > Boston's Built Environment > Transit and Infrastructure

Transit and Infrastructure All things T or civilly engineered within Boston Metro.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-10-2019, 12:17 PM   #721
millerm277
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 186
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Just announced in the FMCB meeting: All day bus lane, Brighton Ave (Eastbound only), Union Sq to Packard's Corner.

Ought to help the 57 and 66.
millerm277 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2019, 01:41 PM   #722
HelloBostonHi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 288
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Quote:
Originally Posted by millerm277 View Post
Just announced in the FMCB meeting: All day bus lane, Brighton Ave (Eastbound only), Union Sq to Packard's Corner.

Ought to help the 57 and 66.
Twas announced a few months ago (https://www.boston.gov/sites/default...lyer_final.pdf) but nice to see it being implemented.
HelloBostonHi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2019, 03:39 PM   #723
HelloBostonHi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 288
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

So as the end of June 2019 approaches... Anyone heard the status of the 194 new New Flyer hybrids that were supposed to be delivered starting in June 2019? (FMCB PPT)

With the current mess I expect the MBTA would be happy to show off new buses if they were delivered so I presume there's a delay... They're supposed to replace all these (pictured below) 2004/5 buses and have new hybrid tech that allows 35% electric drive miles and less engine starts in traffic... Old bus:
HelloBostonHi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2019, 03:58 PM   #724
F-Line to Dudley
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,083
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Quote:
Originally Posted by HelloBostonHi View Post
So as the end of June 2019 approaches... Anyone heard the status of the 194 new New Flyer hybrids that were supposed to be delivered starting in June 2019? (FMCB PPT)

With the current mess I expect the MBTA would be happy to show off new buses if they were delivered so I presume there's a delay... They're supposed to replace all these (pictured below) 2004/5 buses and have new hybrid tech that allows 35% electric drive miles and less engine starts in traffic... Old bus:
NETransit has the delivery range pegged at 6/2019 to 9/2020...a little more drawn-out than the brisk pace of the base-contract deliveries of this model 2 years ago. Since they're the same generic vehicle New Flyer may just be churning through a lot of orders right now and asked for a more relaxed delivery pace.

The T also may be in little hurry because Albany and Quincy garages can't service the hybrids yet. A great swaperoo has to happen as the 2004 Neoplans are retired wherein 2006-08 straight-diesel New Flyers (the last remaining fleet of those) are yanked from the other garages and repopulated at Albany + Quincy. And...for reasons unknown...they haven't issued a scrap contract yet for the Neoplans, for the 32 remaining high-floor buses long retired but still on-property, and for some other pieces of refuse they've still got hanging around. When the base-contract was fulfilled they had the scrappers signed on ahead of time, and had them chowing down new retirees right as they were being yanked from service. They don't have anywhere near enough dead-storage space to juggle new acceptances and old decommissions, so logically the scrap advertisement needs to go out soon or they aren't going to be ready to handle the imminent fleet turnover.
F-Line to Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2019, 02:05 PM   #725
cjbski
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 737
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

I saw one of the new silver line buses in the tunnel (SL3) to Chelsea the other day. They are beautiful, clean, and more spacious.

Otherwise, I've only seen them on the SL4/SL5 outside lines.
cjbski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2019, 12:53 PM   #726
Arlington
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West Medford, MA
Posts: 3,625
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Woohoo! Davis Sq busway now has bus countdowns! (On an older LED sign that previously only had Subway MIN/ARR/BRD times)

Thanks MBTA/FMCB/Baker-Pollack!
__________________
"Trying to solve congestion by making roadways wider is like trying to solve obesity by buying bigger pants."--Charles Marohn
Arlington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 09:03 AM   #727
ceo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 156
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

I commute through Courthouse Station regularly, and I only noticed this morning that that swoopy, futuristic and completely unnecessary mezzanine doesn't even have an entrance at the other end of it. WTF?!
ceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2019, 10:22 AM   #728
Arlington
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West Medford, MA
Posts: 3,625
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Quote:
Originally Posted by ceo View Post
I commute through Courthouse Station regularly, and I only noticed this morning that that swoopy, futuristic and completely unnecessary mezzanine doesn't even have an entrance at the other end of it. WTF?!
Just to be clear, the "other end" is the eastern end, right? (As shown in this c.2000 image)



I think there's your answer right there: when built the entrance would have served just a lot of surface parking.

That's not really unsusual. Nearly every [underground] station in the DC Metro system had a knock-out panel at the "other end" when built for a future entrance when ridership demanded it, with that "other end" usually at a similar "TBD" surface parking or pre-TOD site.

Partly to save $, Partly because the early ridership didn't need 2 half-busy entrances, Partly because they didn't know what was going to get built at the "other end"
__________________
"Trying to solve congestion by making roadways wider is like trying to solve obesity by buying bigger pants."--Charles Marohn

Last edited by Arlington; 07-15-2019 at 12:44 PM.
Arlington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2019, 11:06 AM   #729
BKNA
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 171
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

head house by District Hall is planned for the station.
BKNA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2019, 12:21 PM   #730
HelloBostonHi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 288
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Yeah courthouse has a planned second headhouse as part of that private development, I think it's actually going to be pretty soon too...
HelloBostonHi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 12:42 AM   #731
ceo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 156
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Huh, OK. I assume that's Parcel D, where that little Cisco (beer, not networking hardware) beer garden is now?
ceo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 07:02 AM   #732
Arlington
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West Medford, MA
Posts: 3,625
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Can some supply a marker on a map showing the appropriate Geo for the second entrance?
__________________
"Trying to solve congestion by making roadways wider is like trying to solve obesity by buying bigger pants."--Charles Marohn
Arlington is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 12:05 PM   #733
The EGE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 657
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

There is some sort of structure here (and not related to construction - it's been there since at least 2007). I suspect it's an emergency exit that could be upgraded to a full headhouse.
The EGE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 01:02 PM   #734
dshoost88
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,557
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Why doesn't the Silver Line show up as a Transit line on Google Maps' Transit layer?
dshoost88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 01:33 PM   #735
JeffDowntown
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: South Cove
Posts: 2,775
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Quote:
Originally Posted by dshoost88 View Post
Why doesn't the Silver Line show up as a Transit line on Google Maps' Transit layer?
Because no one in their right mind would consider the glorified bus, 10 mph "Silver Line" joke a transit line?
__________________
Jeff H.
Downtown, South Cove
JeffDowntown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 01:45 PM   #736
Coyote137
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Jamaica Plain
Posts: 694
Send a message via AIM to Coyote137
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Granted it's kind of pathetic, but it IS one of the major ways people get to the airport.
__________________
All opinions expressed in this post represent the views of your employer.
Coyote137 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 02:17 PM   #737
dshoost88
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 1,557
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffDowntown View Post
Because no one in their right mind would consider the glorified bus, 10 mph "Silver Line" joke a transit line?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coyote137 View Post
Granted it's kind of pathetic, but it IS one of the major ways people get to the airport.
My morning rush hour commute on the orange line averages 12 mph from Wellington Station to Chinatown.

The green line B branch averages 6 mph to get from Back Bay to Packards Corner.

And the red line... we're all fully aware of its condition at the moment.

Given Google Maps' ubiquitous adoption among commuters across all modes, I think it's important for people that use transit to see the transit lines available to them, no matter how 'pathetic' or 'shitty' the service is. This extends to bus service as well.
dshoost88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 03:04 PM   #738
JeffDowntown
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: South Cove
Posts: 2,775
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Quote:
Originally Posted by dshoost88 View Post
My morning rush hour commute on the orange line averages 12 mph from Wellington Station to Chinatown.

The green line B branch averages 6 mph to get from Back Bay to Packards Corner.

And the red line... we're all fully aware of its condition at the moment.

Given Google Maps' ubiquitous adoption among commuters across all modes, I think it's important for people that use transit to see the transit lines available to them, no matter how 'pathetic' or 'shitty' the service is. This extends to bus service as well.
How would you even show it without confusing the daylights out of people?

The SL1 route to the airport literally passes World Trade Center station THREE TIMES.
__________________
Jeff H.
Downtown, South Cove
JeffDowntown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2019, 10:39 PM   #739
HelloBostonHi
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 288
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

Think there is some confusion here, the SL1 shows up in Transit routing on Google maps (complete with the Silver color scheme) along with the rest of the the SL routes, and in fact Google prefers to route you on SL1 to the airport. However, when you turn on the "layer" for transit which overlays the lines on the map, it doesn't show up as a colored line instead it shows up with bus stop icons. I think that's a fair representation of what is offered with the silver line. But it's still offered as a transportation option on Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Mass...2d5144!3e3!5i2
HelloBostonHi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2019, 08:28 AM   #740
sneijder
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 44
Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

They really just need to block off a loading zone on Summer St (near where the 7, 11, 4 buses stop at South Station) and run a Logan Express that leaves on a clock-facing schedule every 15 minutes.

- Beats the crap out of dragging luggage through fare gates and down stairs to access the SL1 platform.
- No mode-switch or seaport zig-zag required. Turn onto Congress st, right on W service rd, and right onto the I-90 HOV lane. On the return trip, take the Congress st exit, head back up Congress st towards downtown. The SL1 will never even come close to competing with cars in travel times, while this will be competitive.
- Relieves the overcrowded SL1 and SL Transitway tunnel for seaport commuters & SL3.
sneijder is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Redesigned MBTA c_combat Design a Better Boston 30 12-19-2013 08:38 PM
MBTA Porn shmessy Transit and Infrastructure 0 04-13-2013 11:57 AM
MBTA Art found5dollar Transit and Infrastructure 10 04-04-2011 06:49 PM
MBTA Forum PaulC Transit and Infrastructure 13 06-17-2009 01:10 AM
The Future MBTA PerfectHandle Transit and Infrastructure 10 03-14-2007 01:40 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.