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Old 06-10-2019, 11:12 PM   #241
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Great photo. This clearly shows how dramatically the Omni will alter this view. Even Marine Wharf seems surprisingly close here, and will provide a focal point and visual terminus to a street that used to just taper off into a void.
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Old 06-16-2019, 08:59 AM   #242
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:59 AM   #243
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Old 06-18-2019, 09:05 AM   #244
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Old 06-22-2019, 05:31 PM   #245
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As i went by (SL3) the site this afternoon I noticed steel was rising between the two cores on the west and the mega core on the east.
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Old 06-23-2019, 09:49 PM   #246
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Old 06-24-2019, 09:19 PM   #247
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Interesting timing for your photos BeeLine, apparently someone snuck into this worksite and jumped from the tower crane early Sunday. You can see state police on scene in the 3rd picture.
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Old 06-28-2019, 09:47 AM   #248
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Interesting timing for your photos BeeLine, apparently someone snuck into this worksite and jumped from the tower crane early Sunday. You can see state police on scene in the 3rd picture.
I did notice the activity. Crazy stuff. What I did not understand was that there were 9 police vehicles of various agencies at the site and two more up on Summer Street (on Sunday). This is after the emergency vehicles had removed the victim. Does this mean we have too many police in the Seaport?

On another note you can see the western Omni core from Piers Park.

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Old 06-28-2019, 10:37 AM   #249
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I did notice the activity. Crazy stuff. What I did not understand was that there were 9 police vehicles of various agencies at the site and two more up on Summer Street (on Sunday). This is after the emergency vehicles had removed the victim. Does this mean we have too many police in the Seaport?
YES. The State Police have held onto this area as the primary police for the Seaport, due to former Massport etc. It's disgusting and ridiculous been written about ad nauseam, as well as raising real risks for people who actually NEED police late at night when Boston Police are right around the corner but Staties often take a while to get there (despite the barracks being nearby, strange, right)... but then they trot out David Procopio to bullshit about why the Seaport, a completely normal Boston neighborhood, needs State Police there.. and no politician is ever going to do anything about it, due to the power of the State Police unions.
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Old 06-28-2019, 01:09 PM   #250
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Not sure about the comment that they take a while. I've lived in Seaport for 5 years and although there are hardly ever incidents, they are always in plain sight. I recall some issue at Whiskey Priest years back as that was actually the exact spot where jurisdiction stops so there was confusion with dispatching.

If anything, the police presence is too heavy given what the area is. You have State, Massport and a fair amount of Transit Police in the Seaport at any given hour. For the safest area in the city, there is a plethora of police and they do a great job IMO.
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Old 06-28-2019, 01:10 PM   #251
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YES. The State Police have held onto this area as the primary police for the Seaport, due to former Massport etc. It's disgusting and ridiculous been written about ad nauseam, as well as raising real risks for people who actually NEED police late at night when Boston Police are right around the corner but Staties often take a while to get there (despite the barracks being nearby, strange, right)... but then they trot out David Procopio to bullshit about why the Seaport, a completely normal Boston neighborhood, needs State Police there.. and no politician is ever going to do anything about it, due to the power of the State Police unions.
This was a big story when Charlie was reorganizing the agency, but he apparently forgot about it...
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Old 07-10-2019, 07:39 PM   #252
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:06 PM   #253
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Interesting tidbit. There are two column lines running through the Summer St bridge (where it meets the end of the WTC Bridge streetview here, overhead here).
Massport was just going to have JMA drill through that portion of the bridge. Only problem - MPA owns the World Trade Center Bridge, MassDOT owns the Summer Street Bridge. A JMA employee was laying out where to drill through when a MassDOT inspector showed up with two State Troopers and ordered JMA to not touch the Summer St bridge.
Second problem, the WTC bridge is plate girders with a concrete deck poured on stay-in-place forms. Conceivably you could drill through that without major structural ramifications. However, the Summer Street bridge is pre-stressed, post-tensioned box girders. So if you start demoing one corner you could cause the whole bridge to collapse.
Anyway, several months and many design dollars later MPA and Mass DOT have come to an agreement where a portion of the Summer Street bridge will be transferred to MPA and they've designed a way to demo some of the box beams without impacting the structural integrity of the bridge.
TL/DR: Someone forgot to tell MPA who owns the Summer St bridge and now a contractor needs to completely modify that bridge which is holding up vertical construction in that corner of the building.
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Old 07-11-2019, 04:34 PM   #254
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OMG that's a messy turn of events.

This project seems to have exploded with activity now that they are on to building the floors. And the steel girders seem .. really big?

Head for the Omni when the next hurricane comes.
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Old 07-11-2019, 07:03 PM   #255
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I wonder if this addition and the newly opened Casino together might force our Governor to reconsider the planned addition he nixed when he first came to office? One has to believe our bona fides in the convention business have, or will, change.
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Old 07-12-2019, 03:27 AM   #256
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This thing is going to be MASSIVE when they do.

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Old 07-12-2019, 06:04 AM   #257
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^ thanks for the pic, Stick! This shows a glassy mid-rise going up on the empty D St lot I'd referenced a while back, but it also doesn't show the Lawn on D, so perhaps it's all speculative.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:37 AM   #258
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Interesting tidbit. There are two column lines running through the Summer St bridge (where it meets the end of the WTC Bridge streetview here, overhead here).
Massport was just going to have JMA drill through that portion of the bridge. Only problem - MPA owns the World Trade Center Bridge, MassDOT owns the Summer Street Bridge. A JMA employee was laying out where to drill through when a MassDOT inspector showed up with two State Troopers and ordered JMA to not touch the Summer St bridge.
Second problem, the WTC bridge is plate girders with a concrete deck poured on stay-in-place forms. Conceivably you could drill through that without major structural ramifications. However, the Summer Street bridge is pre-stressed, post-tensioned box girders. So if you start demoing one corner you could cause the whole bridge to collapse.
Anyway, several months and many design dollars later MPA and Mass DOT have come to an agreement where a portion of the Summer Street bridge will be transferred to MPA and they've designed a way to demo some of the box beams without impacting the structural integrity of the bridge.
TL/DR: Someone forgot to tell MPA who owns the Summer St bridge and now a contractor needs to completely modify that bridge which is holding up vertical construction in that corner of the building.
Classic Mass BureouKrapatic Bungling both Massport and Mass DOT are the same Commonwealth of MA -- but the Massport people think they are special [well tehy do and can't be bothered with the regular DOT

I sometime wonder if the old joke about not looking at the clock in the AM so that they have something to do in the PM is a lot or just a bit true
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:56 AM   #259
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^ thanks for the pic, Stick! This shows a glassy mid-rise going up on the empty D St lot I'd referenced a while back, but it also doesn't show the Lawn on D, so perhaps it's all speculative.
That render is very old -- circa 2013? BB [before Baker]

A lot of things have changed since that render so you can't go by much of what you see except for the Streets and Water
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:41 AM   #260
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Yea by now its a massing model of what it will look like with the lot taken up by an expansion. Thats why all I said was this will be massive. Theres no new official plan yet to build it so thats what we have to go by until then, but this model follows the size of the lot and matches the original structure so Im sure it will look close to that if it gets done. The other buildings around wont look like this though and you can see the old omni in there.
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