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Old 04-28-2018, 06:05 PM   #381
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Why can't Boston get something like this....
Really? It looks like hot garbage. Reminds me of a New Age version of 1 Financial Center in Boston with its shitty ribbon windows except now it has pointless curves!
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Old 05-18-2018, 07:52 AM   #382
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Ha! Planning board just rejected it. Hopefully someone else will come by with a better design.
http://www.providencejournal.com/new...ory-fane-tower
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Old 05-18-2018, 08:55 AM   #383
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Ha! Planning board just rejected it. Hopefully someone else will come by with a better design.
http://www.providencejournal.com/new...ory-fane-tower
The City Plan Commission voted 5-2 against it which is a recommendation, not a verdict. It still goes before the City Council which gets the ultimate say. I don't see them approving it either, but it's not dead-as-proposed until they decide on it.
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Old 06-25-2018, 06:15 PM   #384
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Too true...

https://www.fox25boston.com/news/rho...ceed/776787338
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Old 10-07-2018, 08:52 AM   #385
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https://www.boston25news.com/news/rh...mestream_click
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:43 PM   #386
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City Council voted to approve the height for the tower and sent to the Mayor who is expected to approve as long as the developer makes some slight changes and gives money to local projects.
https://turnto10.com/politics/provid...int-tower-site
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Old 11-22-2018, 08:27 AM   #387
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City Council voted to approve the height for the tower and sent to the Mayor who is expected to approve as long as the developer makes some slight changes and gives money to local projects.
https://turnto10.com/politics/provid...int-tower-site

From the story:

"The final design approval lies within the I-195 Redevelopment District Commissionís purview..."

Very interesting... and fraught with imminent peril? I totally appreciate the desire for community stakeholders to have created the I-195 RDC in the first place, given how much raw land suddenly emerged from the dismantling/realignment of I-195.

But apparently this entity has been empowered as a full-blown planning/design agency, on par with the BPDA--but only for a very small overall sliver of downtown Providence (let alone all of municipal Providence)? How does that mesh with whatever the regular BPDA-style entity is for the 99% of Providence that is not within the boundaries of the old I-195 corridor?

This seems like a VERY different arrangement than if the old I-195 corridor territory was awarded a special zoning district overlay... but all final design/planning decisions still funneled through the same authority that ruled on them for the rest of the city.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:27 AM   #388
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And the Hope Point Tower project seems dead again. The Mayor vetoed it and the Council president doesn't want another vote.
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Old 12-04-2018, 06:47 AM   #389
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And the Hope Point Tower project seems dead again. The Mayor vetoed it and the Council president doesn't want another vote.
https://www.wpri.com/news/dan-mcgowa...man/1637114513
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:10 PM   #390
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Thank God.

Maybe the developer will try his luck downtown where the tower should go.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:37 AM   #391
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Thank God.

Maybe the developer will try his luck downtown where the tower should go.
The tower was only a couple blocks from the biggest ones downtown. It would have brought foot traffic to that park and spurred infill development to close the gap back to downtown. Providence would see a revitalization which could lead to the rescue of the Superman building.

HopePointAerial by David Z, on Flickr

Now, here is the more likely scenario.... Large potential developers take note of what happened and decide to invest their money and time elsewhere. The city slowly crumbles to the ground, and the Superman building is torn down as part of New England's saddest result since urban renewal.

If the latter comes to fruition, I will personally make sure I never return to Providence again. Typically I stop through 2-3 times a year. I couldn't bear to see the place without this...

Providence, RI by Jef Nickerson, on Flickr
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Old 12-09-2018, 08:08 AM   #392
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The tower was only a couple blocks from the biggest ones downtown. It would have brought foot traffic to that park and spurred infill development to close the gap back to downtown. Providence would see a revitalization which could lead to the rescue of the Superman building.
Precisely. The development parcel may not be "dead top center" downtown Providence, which is obviously Kennedy Plaza neighborhood w/ Providence Place Mall, Amtrak station, Civic Center, etc. on periphery. But it's damn close enough. And that overhead aerial of downtown the developer supplied with the tower rendering shows how much infill development is still crying out to take place--the number of surface parking lots pockmarking downtown is downright tragic and embarrassing for New England's 2nd-largest city and 2nd-largest metro.
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Old 12-10-2018, 05:13 AM   #393
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The potential override vote is scheduled for tomorrow afternoon.

http://www.providencejournal.com/opi...citys-vitality
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Old 12-11-2018, 12:18 PM   #394
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The moment of truth is at 4:30. I voiced my opinion at the bottom of this article but am worried that Providence could be flushing its future down the drain if it can't support this development.....

http://www.golocalprov.com/articles/...d-elorzas-fane


EDIT: It looks like even if this doesn't pass, the tower still has a chance. See this quote from the below article:

"Even if the override does not pass, it doesnít necessarily mean the end of the road for the tower.

Senate President Dominick Ruggerio has said that he plans to propose legislation that would take authority away from the city in developing former Route 195 land."

http://www.providencejournal.com/new...ane-tower-veto

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Old 12-11-2018, 03:53 PM   #395
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Here's the verdict..... No just kidding, the vote was rescheduled for Thursday due to a sick council member.

https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news...wer/1653524072

I'm very surprised so few people on here seem to care about this one. It may just be one development, but likely the future direction of New England's second largest city is at stake!
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Old 12-11-2018, 04:25 PM   #396
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Here's the verdict..... No just kidding, the vote was rescheduled for Thursday due to a sick council member.

https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news...wer/1653524072

I'm very surprised so few people on here seem to care about this one. It may just be one development, but likely the future direction of New England's second largest city is at stake!
Not viable.

http://www.golocalprov.com/news/excl...praiser-scotti
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Old 12-11-2018, 04:43 PM   #397
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If the builder is willing to assume the risk, what's the problem?
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Old 12-11-2018, 06:25 PM   #398
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If the builder is willing to assume the risk, what's the problem?
So naive. The developer would require tens of millions, perhaps over a hundred million, in subsidies.
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:07 AM   #399
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Here's the verdict..... No just kidding, the vote was rescheduled for Thursday due to a sick council member.

https://www.wpri.com/news/local-news...wer/1653524072

I'm very surprised so few people on here seem to care about this one. It may just be one development, but likely the future direction of New England's second largest city is at stake!
^Not to nitpick, but the last sentence above is wrong. Worcester is New England's second largest city.
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Old 12-12-2018, 07:18 AM   #400
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^Not to nitpick, but the last sentence above is wrong. Worcester is New England's second largest city.
Worcester only is by population because of its relatively large land area. Worcester has 38.57 square miles, vs only 20.6 for Providence, yet only leads in population 185k to 180k. You can factor in North Providence alone for another 32k people in less than 6 square miles, and you're already at 212k people vs 185k with another 12 square miles in hand. Providence is absolutely the #2 city in New England, and Hartford is probably 3rd.
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