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Old 05-15-2019, 12:08 PM   #4541
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A little harsh there Fox, but I agree that place didnt have many redeeming qualities. I'm surprised it was there that long it was very middling.

These places that brew their own beer but arent quite full blown breweries dont have good beers from my experience
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:03 PM   #4542
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...I'm surprised it was there that long it was very middling...
I'm not shedding any tears over it, but as far as the answer to your question as to how it survived this long: it was perhaps the only place in Harv. Sq. that could accommodate large parties of guests on short notice, and there's a substantial demand for that in the greater Harv. environment.

With it departing, the party-of-11 that just watched a dissertation defense and wants to go grab beers/burgers is S.o.o.L. now without a reservation. And 23-year-old low-paid grad students are bad at making reservations. Maybe that will now change.
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:24 PM   #4543
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I'm not shedding any tears over it, but as far as the answer to your question as to how it survived this long: it was perhaps the only place in Harv. Sq. that could accommodate large parties of guests on short notice, and there's a substantial demand for that in the greater Harv. environment.

With it departing, the party-of-11 that just watched a dissertation defense and wants to go grab beers/burgers is S.o.o.L. now without a reservation. And 23-year-old low-paid grad students are bad at making reservations. Maybe that will now change.
They always had empty seats because it wasn't very popular - and that was the foundation of their longevity?

I suspect the real reason is that they signed a long lease a long time ago when rents were lower. They cannot justify renewing the lease selling their same stale product.

If we are lucky, they will sell the brewhouse equipment to the next tenant and we'll get a new brewery. Probably not a brewpub this time.. More likely, this location will never be a brewery again.
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:30 PM   #4544
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They always had empty seats because it wasn't very popular - and that was the foundation of their longevity?

I suspect the real reason is that they signed a long lease a long time ago when rents were lower. They cannot justify renewing the lease selling their same stale product.

If we are lucky, they will sell the brewhouse equipment to the next tenant and we'll get a new brewery. Probably not a brewpub this time.. More likely, this location will never be a brewery again.
"survived as long as they did" was what I was responding to.

The only reason they had any substantive clientele in there - and (we assume) were able to make payments - was the mode of clientele I am referring to.

If they merely had their low quality food/beer offering, and not the style of dining room that they had, they would have been gone long ago IMO. For instance, if only 2-topper cafe tables were available, they would have offered no utility to anyone.

Rational economists really seem to need to have multidimensional utility spelled out for them.
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Old 05-15-2019, 01:44 PM   #4545
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Definitely was a spot for groups - I was a part of more than one. It's a nice space, so hopefully something good comes from it.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:05 PM   #4546
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Didn't they stop brewing beers there years ago?

The one in Shoppers World in Framingham still brews beer. I was dragged there a year or so ago and the beer was actually decent. Nothing remotely close to places like Trillium, Night Shift, Tree House or other similar quality breweries but definitely better than places like Boston Beer Works and that place on Lansdowne that opened a few years ago.
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:32 AM   #4547
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Former Crema Café location in Harvard Sq. will become a Bluestone Lane Coffee

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New York-Based Coffee Chain Plans Three-Store Expansion to Boston Area
...a New York-based chain of Australia-inspired cafes will be opening a location in the former Crema space, as previously reported at the time of Crema’s closure in late 2018. Now it turns out that the forthcoming Harvard Square location won’t be the only one to appear in the Boston area...
From Eater Boston:
https://boston.eater.com/2019/5/14/1...vard-expansion

The other two locations will be kiosk-style at South Station and at 125 High Street.

I've never tried their coffee; anyone know if it's any good?
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Old 05-17-2019, 10:36 AM   #4548
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A hot pot place will open up in Seaport next month, in Fan Pier next to Babbo's. From the same team as Lola 42 just a stone throw's away. I saw some construction activity going on in that retail space recently and was wondering what it was. Now I know.

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https://boston.eater.com/2019/5/16/1...istrict-boston
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Old Yesterday, 02:20 PM   #4549
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Trader Joe's buildout in the Seaport appears to be imminent. Exterior of building is fenced off (near Shake Shack/Trillium).
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