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Old 06-07-2018, 11:15 AM   #321
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Some of the varied forms of High-Tech Expressionism are an outgrowth of Brutalist gestures and form-making. Paul Rudolph's work in Southeast Asia (both executed and unbuilt) skirts the line between both approaches. His gifted students, Norman Foster and Richard Rogers, have driven these ideas forward for the past few decades. Kevin Roche, John Portman, and even Rem Koolhaas have played in this shared space. When done thoughtfully, these can be interesting buildings that offer a rich spacial experience to residents and visitors. The Frankfurt project is Coop Himmelb(l)au at their most understated. It reminds me a bit of Koolhaas's Seattle Central Library, a nominally Brutalist building ensnared in a diagrid and frosted in glass.
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:28 AM   #322
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Old 06-07-2018, 03:29 PM   #323
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Some of the varied forms of High-Tech Expressionism are an outgrowth of Brutalist gestures and form-making. Paul Rudolph's work in Southeast Asia (both executed and unbuilt) skirts the line between both approaches. His gifted students, Norman Foster and Richard Rogers, have driven these ideas forward for the past few decades. Kevin Roche, John Portman, and even Rem Koolhaas have played in this share space. When done thoughtfully, these can be interesting buildings that offer a rich spacial experience to residents and visitors. The Frankfurt project is Coop Himmelb(l)au at their most understated. It reminds me a bit of Koolhaas's Seattle Central Library, a nominally Brutalist building ensnared in a diagrid and frosted in glass.
BB, do you write professionally? That was both wonderfully stated and quite informative.
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Old 06-07-2018, 03:42 PM   #324
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Thank you, Downburst.

I trained as a fiction writer in the 90s, with a sensibility informed by the work of Richard Yates, John Updike, and Thomas Williams. Sometimes I'd get stoned and write shitty poems that aspired no higher than warmed-over Robert Lowell.

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That was both wonderfully stated and quite informative.
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Old 07-25-2018, 08:12 AM   #327
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Great article on the history of City Hall Plaza on Boston.com

https://www.boston.com/news/history/...hall-brutalism

Given the other 7 finalists, I'm not surprised Boston ended up with the current design; they were all hideous.

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Great article on the history of City Hall Plaza on Boston.com

https://www.boston.com/news/history/...hall-brutalism

Given the other 7 finalists, I'm not surprised Boston ended up with the current design; they were all hideous.

Fine article.... but the headline and picture don't match: "Why is Boston City Hall the way it is?" and the picture is from like 30 years ago and doesn't reflect any of the changes. Looking at it I would expect that the picture would actually show the way it is now.

As for the architectural contest... I think without a doubt architectural contests are a bad way to actually choose final architecture. I mean I suppose it is essentially like an RFP for architectural design services, but making it so public like that and so much like a contest for the design of the final building rather than just a presentation of past work or previous designs as part of a portfolio... and then the winning architect working with the city to come up with a design the city wants to build.
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I always kinda dug the oval version. That might have been cool.
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Old 07-25-2018, 03:37 PM   #330
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I always kinda dug the oval version.
I've always wondered if Gordon Bunshaft was aware of this proposal; the similarity to his Hirshhorn Museum in DC is striking.

The Mitchell/Giurgola proposal is fascinating. What was the planned cladding? It seems a thousand times more menacing than Kallmann McKinnell & Knowles unloved masterpiece.

Wish I could find a image of the also-ran proposal by a young Peter Eisenman -- it wasn't half-bad...

Another good read on the lost artistry of rendering.
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