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Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport
Cool stuff, but just to be clear, it's marketing:
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I took a drive down Congress starting at Martha Road/Lomasney - it's a great road in that it's really the only one that you can take all the way across the city without any turning. But down the Seaport, I was pretty amazed at the amount of construction. I've felt that way before but it this current wave is pretty impressive.
I also don't remember the Boston Design and Innovation Center replacing all the beautiful old industrial windows. They look great. |
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Re: Innovation Dist. / South Boston Seaport
They should rename this Menimo Drive just so we all know who fucked Boston for a generation or two.
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That is all true ... accept it should have all been better. Lets not settle just because "something" finally happened. Its still pretty bad urban-ism at its core.
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No appropriate transit was built for the public to enjoy a park or the waterfront. The Massachusetts taxpayers got hoodwinked and all they did was drive up our overall Living expenses. TRANSIT is the bloodline needed to flow through a city to make it very accessible without creating Transit nightmare. Parking in the city now is a minimum of $50. Parking tickets are now $50 Menino overall legacy in my opinion. A very corrupt fool |
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Well...at least its not a MegaPlex....
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While I agree the Seaport is not what it could have been, and the architecture is generally not world class, it is becoming a truly vibrant part of the city with real street life and interesting urban spaces. In comparison to what I feared it would become, I am thrilled.
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And yes, it's more than just the mayor... there are systems in place, and the system here is not one that allows for world class thinking. Boston is clannish and provincial, and so is the state. It is a place that automatically orients toward the minutia rather than figuring out what systemwide changes would make the most sense. Hence, for example, a single NIMBY in Brighton can sink the entire Circle Theater project. |
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You can't throw the big dig in here (only several billion, not hundreds) that's not fair. |
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Agree its not 100s of Bs....but Big Dig was absolutely a prerequisite for developing the Seaport...
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I've also previously mentioned this, but for Vertex, the tax break was contingent upon reaching a defined and significant hiring goal by a due date (i.e., improving local employment which, last I checked, is not a bad thing). They ultimately fell short of that goal and they had to pay back either a proportional or substantial amount (don't recall). I don't see the logic in that line of thinking. Public money also filled in the Back Bay. I'm not knocking on the door of some mansion on Beacon St. and telling the person living there that he owes me anything.
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Take a look at the surrounding areas in Boston real estate tax rates in the overall area the last 3 years. This is a basic 2 family property tax rate soaring over 4 years. Property Taxes Tax Assessment 2018 $7,418 +6.7% $724,400 +10.1% 2017 $6,950 +10.9% $658,100 +17.5% 2016 $6,265 +6.5% $559,900 +11.4% 2015 $5,882 +7.4% $502,700 +12.4% These numbers are sick. How can the elderly even stay in their houses on fixed income? Even single families are shooting up in taxes. Keep giving those corporations millions of tax breaks and allow them to build on billions of tax dollars that the tax payer paid for infrastructure on prime property. YOU GOT HOOD WINKED. Concerning the VERTEX DEAL it wasn't vertex that got the deal. It lowered construction costs for FALLON the developer. WAKE UP. |
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But - keep in mind (to extend your comparison) that the zoning in the backbay was very prescriptive, down to the acceptable dimensions of bay windows, with the intention of creating a coherent and attractive built environment. And there was also a lot of land / space / money dedicated to public spaces and institutions. |
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The overall public taxpayer was not in the hole for the backbay infrastructure for Billions of tax dollars like the Seaport. Patrick and Menino did give Liberty Mutual almost 50 Million in tax breaks to build the Liberty Mutual building claiming its all about jobs as the Backbay was hovering under 7% vacancy. These politicans should be in JAIL now. This is nothing more than FRAUD. |
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