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Old 10-12-2018, 12:00 PM   #181
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Re: How Tall Are Boston's Buildings and Should They Be Taller?

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I've got news for you - that is part of the economics of development. We live in a society.
fattony, I agree with you 100% on 99% of your posts, but you have to admit that political forces and economic forces are not the same thing.

There are plenty of things in life that "make economic sense" but are not given regulatory or political approval. They are not one in the same.

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Your post logically makes sense, and until I started working with university seniors, would have completely agreed with your logic. But what you outline naively assumes that all students are motivated by the same rational economic considerations. Some do, sure, but that's not how the mind of all 22y.o.'s work.

I cannot count the number of times I have engaged with students who have "already made up their mind" that they "need to get out of Boston" or "want to experience NYC" before they even know what their exact job prospects / salary options are. That is what 22 y.o.'s do, especially those who have no loan debt / have a sense they should go explore.
I totally agree that a city's "culture" is indeed a major consideration when someone is deciding where to live, and this consideration is relevant even outside of employment prospects. I do not agree that building height plays any significant role in that "culture" consideration, however, for just about anybody.

All employment opportunities being equal, some grads are going to want to live in NY, some are going to want to live in TX, some are going to want to live in Boston, etc. But plopping a few taller office buildings down in Boston won't change that cultural distinction. Nobody is going to think -- consciously or unconsciously -- "well, I wanted to move to Manhattan, but because Boston now has a building taller than the Hancock I'll stay." Things like bars, restaurants, weather, ease-of-transportation, etc. do WAY more to shape "culture" to a college grad than building height. It's also hard to understate the importance of a city's dating market; that is a HUGE consideration of twenty-somethings, especially as young (and especially educated) people are increasingly finding partners later in life.

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Old 10-13-2018, 09:42 AM   #182
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Re: How Tall Are Boston's Buildings and Should They Be Taller?

Guys, I'll stand down and leave it at this: people make inferences about how "big" a city is and "how much it has going on" from the appearance of its skyline.

If you don't agree, fine.
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Old 10-14-2018, 09:20 PM   #183
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Re: How Tall Are Boston's Buildings and Should They Be Taller?

Ranking cities among the US and Canada by tallest building, Boston comes in 21st.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...04#post8345804
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:54 AM   #184
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would the holier-than-thou architectural I-love-Paris crowd really have their dreams killed?
OK, I'm out.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:35 AM   #185
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A city will always be both forest and trees.

No one is saying to give up on trees. This isn't an either/or game.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:04 AM   #186
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Let me flip this around: if there were just one well-designed 900 footer, would the holier-than-thou architectural I-love-Paris crowd really have their dreams killed?
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make him "holier-than-thou."

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And how hard is it to admit that one punctuating tower would not destroy any of the other urban aesthetics that some folks on aB prefer?
I'd say this is a straw man, but you actually seem to believe it. I have not seen this sentiment on aB. I think any push back you see here is more about people tiring of the height obsession and constant height related posts. It has nothing to do with people being against a tall building or a fear that it will ruin the preferred urban aesthetics as you put it.

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This isn't an either/or game.
And again, no one here is saying it is. I think the vast majority here would be happy (or at the very least ambivalent) about a new tallest building in Boston. It's just that many of us believe there are more important things.
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Old 10-15-2018, 01:24 PM   #187
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Justin7, we have more in common than just the number at the end of our alias. I agree with most of your sentiments on aB. The height-obsessed postings from a specific person(s) about every single parcel are absolutely exhausting and substantially detract from aB. For 95/100 parcels we discuss on here, height (e.g, can we go taller??) barely has a place in a reasonable discourse about the project. This is honestly how I feel.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:10 AM   #188
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This appears to be the report for Parcel 15

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...desc&pageNum=1

appears to vary between 535' and 553'

(Triangle roof, 20' antenna)? coord, site elev, structure, total

42 20' 49.03" N 71 05' 10.50" W 20 553 573

42 20' 49.98" N 71 05' 10.84" W 20 553 573

42 20' 50.96" N 71 05' 10.85" W 20 553 573

42 20' 50.64" N 71 05' 11.81" W 20 553 573

42 20' 49.41" N 71 05' 09.76" W 20 553 573

42 20' 49.03" N 71 05' 11.18" W 20 553 573

42 20' 50.87" N 71 05' 10.30" W 20 553 573

42 20' 50.51" N 71 05' 11.65" W 20 535 555

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