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Old 05-28-2014, 04:05 PM   #21
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Re: 101 Seaport Blvd (PwC)/parcel L1@Seaport Sq./Seaport

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Given the talk about scarcity of hotel rooms around the convention center and area in general, I am surprised they aren't building anything directly above the floorplate. Is it just too hard to support a vertical structure when you need the wide, flexible space of a convention hall? Seems a bit like a lost opportunity to park hundreds of hotel spots right on site.
I remember reading Southie neighbors were opposed to any sort of height on the W 1st end of the convention center. That's why it slopes upward toward Summer St.
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Old 05-29-2014, 07:15 AM   #22
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Given the talk about scarcity of hotel rooms around the convention center and area in general, I am surprised they aren't building anything directly above the floorplate. Is it just too hard to support a vertical structure when you need the wide, flexible space of a convention hall? Seems a bit like a lost opportunity to park hundreds of hotel spots right on site.
The pancake of the BCEC is a waste of space that I will never come to terms with...
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:07 AM   #23
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Could they, at least, cover the expansive roof with solar panels (or better yet, lease the space to a solar company to gain revenue)? That would have some redeeming quality rather than a complete waste...
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:09 AM   #24
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Could they, at least, cover the expansive roof with solar panels (or better yet, lease the space to a solar company to gain revenue)? That would have some redeeming quality rather than a complete waste...
I can't imagine why they have not done that yet......except for the fact that the MCCA is populated by 1950's mentality, flatfooted hacks.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:21 AM   #25
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Could they, at least, cover the expansive roof with solar panels (or better yet, lease the space to a solar company to gain revenue)? That would have some redeeming quality rather than a complete waste...
The folks inside on rainy or snowy days might disagree with the roof being a complete waste.

See the below link for the Solar roof discussion.

http://www.archboston.org/community/...136#post151136
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:33 AM   #26
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Im liking this building/ the new bcec expansion, only thing I think thats hideous is whatever that thing is blocking waterside place, that looks pretty rough.
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Old 05-29-2014, 11:38 AM   #27
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The folks inside on rainy or snowy days might disagree with the roof being a complete waste.

See the below link for the Solar roof discussion.

http://www.archboston.org/community/...136#post151136
Your pdf is no longer available on the internets.

The other link, the magazine story was 4 years old. Solar panels have become far more efficient and cheap in the past 4 years:

http://costofsolar.com/solar-panel-p...-advancements/

Breaking efficiency records every year and the costs per watt keep falling. Right in Cambridge there are billions of dollars going into nanotechnology which will fuel advances in this (among other fields) for years.

Gretzky; 'The other slobs skate to the puck, they don't know enough to skate to where the puck will be.'
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Old 05-29-2014, 12:10 PM   #28
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Your pdf is no longer available on the internets.

The other link, the magazine story was 4 years old. Solar panels have become far more efficient and cheap in the past 4 years:

http://costofsolar.com/solar-panel-p...-advancements/

Breaking efficiency records every year and the costs per watt keep falling. Right in Cambridge there are billions of dollars going into nanotechnology which will fuel advances in this (among other fields) for years.

Gretzky; 'The other slobs skate to the puck, they don't know enough to skate to where the puck will be.'
Yeah, I meant to just link the discussion. But, no commercially available PV panels have not improved markedly in that span. The efficiency on available products (standard) may have increased by a percentage point or two. (Maybe the LA concenvtion center could get 11% of its power instead of 10% if they replaced them all, sounds worth it). Custom units, or integral type panels (say as part of the roof skin or solar glass) are going to be infinitely more expensive and less efficient.

I agree the technology is getting better, but the cost to produce commercial products with these higher efficiencies is not in any deck of cards available today. What's produced in the lab today, we'll be lucky to buy in a decade.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/pd...7_chapter4.pdf

See page 83 for a good breakdown of theoretical vs. lab results vs. actual production model efficiencies.

The link is two years old now, but shows, not much has changed since I wrote a thesis including PV's. The effiency of commercial products in 2007 was roughly 14%. Everything I can find on the "most popular" commercially available products list efficiencies from 12 - 17%. Meaning, not much has changed. The price has steadily dropped however, so that's a step in the right direction.

http://sroeco.com/solar/most-efficient-solar-panels
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Old 05-29-2014, 01:04 PM   #29
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The link is two years old now, but shows, not much has changed since I wrote a thesis including PV's. The effiency of commercial products in 2007 was roughly 14%. Everything I can find on the "most popular" commercially available products list efficiencies from 12 - 17%. Meaning, not much has changed. The price has steadily dropped however, so that's a step in the right direction.
Not to get too off-topic here, but price per watt is all that matters here. Efficiency can stay constant forever, but as long as price drops (and it has, dramatically) solar will become more and more practical. There's a reason that installed solar capacity is growing exponentially. These numbers (which come for a trade association, I concede) speak for themselves: http://www.seia.org/news/new-report-...cord-year-2013. And growth has continued to accelerate so far in 2014...
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:07 PM   #30
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Not to get too off-topic here, but price per watt is all that matters here. Efficiency can stay constant forever, but as long as price drops (and it has, dramatically) solar will become more and more practical. There's a reason that installed solar capacity is growing exponentially. These numbers (which come for a trade association, I concede) speak for themselves: http://www.seia.org/news/new-report-...cord-year-2013. And growth has continued to accelerate so far in 2014...
Tru-ish. Efficiency is tied to spacial requirements. We do not have limitless places to put these things. To get anything out of them besides a pat on the back, or a grant (yes important), you need to put in a lot of them. OK, done with my part of the derailment.
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:05 AM   #31
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I think the original plan for the BCEC was to cover the roof with solar panels, but it was dropped for cost-cutting reasons. However, it might just have been a bit of greenwashing for a potential white elephant.
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Old 06-16-2014, 12:21 AM   #32
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A few from this weekend.

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This one really is in the departure path from Logan:
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Old 06-16-2014, 11:19 AM   #34
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I think the original plan for the BCEC was to cover the roof with solar panels, but it was dropped for cost-cutting reasons. However, it might just have been a bit of greenwashing for a potential white elephant.
IIRC, the original plan called for a stainless steel roof. This of course got VE'd out as prices spiraled out of control.
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Old 06-21-2014, 08:48 AM   #35
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101 Seaport 20Jun (Looking S from the harbor)
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Old 06-25-2014, 03:28 PM   #36
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101 Seaport Blvd (Looking W)

101 Seaport Blvd (NW corner)
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Old 06-30-2014, 08:55 AM   #38
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Wow lotta great pics of that one. Thanks kz!
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