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Old 05-28-2008, 11:32 AM   #21
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Not Boston, I know, but the NYT did a nice little piece on how architectural renderings are manipulated to get projects built (Hudson Yards in this case). I'd love to see more comparisons of renderings vs the final product- it would shed light on which firms aim for realism, and which are selling a fairy tale...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/ar...ts&oref=slogin
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:36 AM   #22
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IMO, 75 State St., of all the buildings in town, is begging for a cap of some sort. Everytime I see it, I just feel it has an unfinished look to it. A gold cap, a la United Shoe Machinery, might fit nicely on top.
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Old 05-28-2008, 11:41 AM   #23
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These NY Real Estate Blog Curbed sometimes does posts titled Rendering/Reality -- This is an example:

http://curbed.com/archives/2008/02/0...aver_house.php
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This thread has only inflamed my hatred of PoMo. Good job though.
whats PoMo?
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:31 PM   #25
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Postmodern Architecture

75 State St, International Place, the original sketches for 33 arch and 111 huntington, etc
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:35 PM   #26
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75 State St, International Place, the original sketches for 33 arch and 111 huntington, etc
So you prefer what was built in the 60's-70's?
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Old 05-28-2008, 12:50 PM   #27
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Van - excuse my ignorance, but can you explain your comment about Philip Johnson?
The story I was told by an architect prof was that when International Place was being designed the community (what community?) demanded that Johnson use Palladian windows. Frustrated, Johnson then covered the entire building in them, except they are fake. They are just standard glass plates with a Palladian shape over them.

That's the story anyway, not sure how grounded in reality it is. I actually really like IP and PoMo in general so I'm not complaining.
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:18 PM   #28
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I had always heard that Don Chiafaro himself wanted the palladian windows?

Did you know that Charlie Croker, the main character of Tom Wolfe's "A Man in Full", is based on Don Chiafaro? I was lucky enough to hang out with Tom Wolfe for an evening and he told me all kinds of funny stories about Don. Say what you will about Don, but I personally like him and his cantankerous ways.
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The story I was told by an architect prof was that when International Place was being designed the community (what community?) demanded that Johnson use Palladian windows. Frustrated, Johnson then covered the entire building in them, except they are fake. They are just standard glass plates with a Palladian shape over them.

That's the story anyway, not sure how grounded in reality it is. I actually really like IP and PoMo in general so I'm not complaining.
That's interesting. I had always assumed that this was just Johnson's (and postmodernists in general) sense of humor- like his town hall for Celebration, FL.

It's also funny seeing the mention of Tom Wolfe here, given his adoration of postmodernism's ostentatious silliness.
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Like I said, that's the story as told by an architect. Who knows the reality.
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So you prefer what was built in the 60's-70's?
Yes, actually.
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1 Linclon 1 #2what happen to the side tower #4

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Anyone have any images of the original Hancock tower proposal?
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Was it different than what we got? If so,I hope someone has it!would luv to see it!
I've seen the image in a few IM Pei books- It was a round tower with a flat top, with a split in the middle. I can't seem to find any images online, or I'd post it.
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