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Old 07-29-2017, 10:42 AM   #3541
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Speaking of Delta, on Thursday, Delta and China Eastern each bought a 10 percent stake in Air France / KLM. And Air France / KLM took at 31 percent stake in Virgin Atlantic.

Delta already held a 49 percent stake in Virgin Atlantic, a 49% stake in AeroMexico, and 9.5% stake in Gol.
It appears Delta and Air France-KLM want to get rid of the man who is closely associated with the Virgin name from his first airline.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:55 AM   #3542
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Light dawns on Marblehead.... surprised this didn't happen sooner: a partnership with Air Berlin and JetBlue.

http://www.eturbonews.com/161193/air...ration-jetblue
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:51 PM   #3543
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NY Senator Chuck Schumer wants JetBlue to fly Boston-Syracuse. He got his way before with Albany/Syracuse-Florida flights so who knows.

http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny...e24ba3624.html
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Old 08-11-2017, 11:18 PM   #3544
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NY Senator Chuck Schumer wants JetBlue to fly Boston-Syracuse. He got his way before with Albany/Syracuse-Florida flights so who knows.

http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny...e24ba3624.html
Currently the only direct SYR-BOS service is 1 round-trip on American Eagle (Air Wisconsin) with a 50 seat CRJ200, weekdays only, although there is plenty of 1 stop service going through other hubs.

I'm skeptical there's demand for more given that AA's never opted to run more flights/bigger planes on the route.
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Old 08-14-2017, 01:16 PM   #3545
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Currently the only direct SYR-BOS service is 1 round-trip on American Eagle (Air Wisconsin) with a 50 seat CRJ200, weekdays only, although there is plenty of 1 stop service going through other hubs.

I'm skeptical there's demand for more given that AA's never opted to run more flights/bigger planes on the route.
The route has the schedule and capacity that it does precisely because the route is tailored for local (BOS) point of sale and has attractive yields. While legacy AA was big on cutting non-hub flying in the 2009-2011 period (Arpey's "Cornerstone flight 2020" strategy) leading up to bankruptcy, legacy US (new management) is more content letting routes like this stand on their own two legs if the yields are attractive.

No way this is a two carrier market, but lower average fares on B6 may stimulate more demand (taking people off buses, students from driving, interline int'l connections, etc).
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:17 PM   #3546
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The route has the schedule and capacity that it does precisely because the route is tailored for local (BOS) point of sale and has attractive yields. While legacy AA was big on cutting non-hub flying in the 2009-2011 period (Arpey's "Cornerstone flight 2020" strategy) leading up to bankruptcy, legacy US (new management) is more content letting routes like this stand on their own two legs if the yields are attractive.

No way this is a two carrier market, but lower average fares on B6 may stimulate more demand (taking people off buses, students from driving, interline int'l connections, etc).
Good analysis - I think B6 would do ROC first if any other upstate NY service is to be added (larger metro) and that airport is also begging for it.
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Old 08-14-2017, 03:52 PM   #3547
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Surprised Jet Blue doesn't serve Burlington, VT non-stop from Boston. Does any airline fly Bos/BTV nonstop?
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Old 08-15-2017, 11:43 AM   #3548
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Surprised Jet Blue doesn't serve Burlington, VT non-stop from Boston. Does any airline fly Bos/BTV nonstop?
Nope. I'm going to a wedding up there in the fall and I was looking to see if anybody served that route (have to meet up with someone there, and would rather not take 2 cars). The answer is no.

I think it's too short/too small a market for B6. It's really probably only possible on a +/- 50 seat plane at best. the CRJ700 would make sense. Or ATR-72 or Dash 8 might be the biggest a carrier would do on the route. I'd like to see it too.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:09 PM   #3549
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Nope. I'm going to a wedding up there in the fall and I was looking to see if anybody served that route (have to meet up with someone there, and would rather not take 2 cars). The answer is no.

I think it's too short/too small a market for B6. It's really probably only possible on a +/- 50 seat plane at best. the CRJ700 would make sense. Or ATR-72 or Dash 8 might be the biggest a carrier would do on the route. I'd like to see it too.
There are plenty of buses that serve this route. You still don't need to drive.
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Old 08-15-2017, 12:57 PM   #3550
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There are plenty of buses that serve this route. You still don't need to drive.
Oh I know, I didn't say I couldn't get there at all without driving. But I'd rather spend 1/2 the time door to door by flying if it's available.

Anyway, I wonder if this will impact the Boston route:

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Struggling German airline Air Berlin filed for insolvency on Tuesday after years of losses caught up with it and shareholder Etihad withdrew funding, with rival Lufthansa saying it was in talks to take over parts of its business.

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Old 08-16-2017, 06:45 AM   #3551
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Air Berlin filed for bankruptcy yesterday. German government has loaned it money so operations don't cease immediately. Seems headed for liquidation with Ryanair charging that Lufthansa is seeking to devour the more lucrative routes.
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Old 08-21-2017, 04:09 PM   #3552
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Nothing overly noteworthy, but the seasonal AA 757 service to CDG will NOT be returning for the 2018 season. For years many on the interwebs had predicted it being cut and it has managed to come back year after year. It was never a great performer, but then again it is easy to make money flying to Europe during the summer but between the 757 fleet draw down and glut of overcapacity in the transatlantic makes good sense to throw in the towel.
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:46 PM   #3553
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Nothing overly noteworthy, but the seasonal AA 757 service to CDG will NOT be returning for the 2018 season. For years many on the interwebs had predicted it being cut and it has managed to come back year after year. It was never a great performer, but then again it is easy to make money flying to Europe during the summer but between the 757 fleet draw down and glut of overcapacity in the transatlantic makes good sense to throw in the towel.
2nd Air France Paris flight (10pm ish) also not loaded for Summer 2018.

I flew the 7:20 flight last week and the 2nd flight had been cancelled.

Also Boston-Syracuse on JetBlue is happening starting in January 2018. One daily flight with late pm Boston departure and really early Syracuse departure. Making use of a spare plane to please Schumer.

http://www.syracuse.com/business-new...fare_sale.html
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Old 08-22-2017, 02:59 PM   #3554
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Is travel to France from the US down as a result of their increase in high profile terror attacks over the last couple of years?
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:47 PM   #3555
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Is travel to France from the US down as a result of their increase in high profile terror attacks over the last couple of years?
In which country? France or the US?
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Old 08-22-2017, 11:38 PM   #3556
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I don't see a drop in tourism being the culprit. I see Norwegian, Wow, and IcelandAir being behind the decrease in flights to Paris.

If I had to guess Paris is not as much of a business destination compared to London, so consumers might be more price conscious and likely to book with a LCC.

With regards to AA they're basically cutting all non hub service from Boston. I wouldn't be surprised if DL becomes the number 2 carrier at Logan in the near future.
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:23 PM   #3557
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I don't see a drop in tourism being the culprit. I see Norwegian, Wow, and IcelandAir being behind the decrease in flights to Paris.

If I had to guess Paris is not as much of a business destination compared to London, so consumers might be more price conscious and likely to book with a LCC.

With regards to AA they're basically cutting all non hub service from Boston. I wouldn't be surprised if DL becomes the number 2 carrier at Logan in the near future.
Delta is going to become the #2 carrier at Logan. Once they get the 5 Southwest gates in Terminal A, they will be expanding even further.


At some point something has to really start giving - Logan has seen a very large increase in service over to Europe. Heck look across this country and over the last couple of years many airports have seen large increases in seats to Europe.



Air Canada is introducing Montreal - Tokyo Narita flights. In the press release it states that the flight it timed for connections to/from Boston. Curious if a number of people connect through Montreal when flying internationally?
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Old 08-23-2017, 12:51 PM   #3558
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NY Senator Chuck Schumer wants JetBlue to fly Boston-Syracuse. He got his way before with Albany/Syracuse-Florida flights so who knows.

http://auburnpub.com/blogs/eye_on_ny...e24ba3624.html
That didn't take long: JetBlue connects with Syracuse
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Old 08-23-2017, 03:14 PM   #3559
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Air Canada is introducing Montreal - Tokyo Narita flights. In the press release it states that the flight it timed for connections to/from Boston. Curious if a number of people connect through Montreal when flying internationally?
Sometimes. They're often a lot cheaper and the services is pretty good. I connect through Toronto and Montreal regularly. I can't afford Business out of pocket, but there are almost always reasonable upgrades to Premium Economy available on their 787s. I've chosen connecting on AC over direct out of Logan sometimes because of the price and level of service.
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Old 08-24-2017, 07:44 AM   #3560
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With regards to AA they're basically cutting all non hub service from Boston.
Really? Can you describe the cutbacks? I'd think we'd see B6 enter ROC and some other old legacy "US" markets.
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