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Old 06-14-2017, 03:54 PM   #3221
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Re: Crazy Transit Pitches

Here's a pitch:

Build a supertall in every neighborhood and then put an El connecting the 100th floor of each.
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Old 06-14-2017, 04:30 PM   #3222
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Here's a pitch:

Build a supertall in every neighborhood and then put an El connecting the 100th floor of each.
El? I think this screams hyper loop.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:41 PM   #3223
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Build a supertall in every neighborhood and then put an El connecting the 100th floor of each.
Would create really easy connections for passengers of the trans-oceanic airships that dock at the mooring masts
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Old 06-15-2017, 08:04 AM   #3224
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Would be more cost effective to make it a zip line.
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Old 06-15-2017, 10:21 AM   #3225
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Would be more cost effective to make it a zip line.
Nah. Catapult with net on the other side. Just need to adjust for wind direction, air density, whether the swallow is laden or unladen.
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Old 06-15-2017, 06:04 PM   #3226
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Any sky-high transportation solution that isn't zeppelins is trash. I want a one way ticket from South Station Tower to the Empire State Building!
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:40 PM   #3227
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Each one of these is better than the one before it.
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Old 06-24-2017, 04:18 PM   #3228
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Here's a list of a few proposals that I came up with:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Some ideas are standard/borrowed, some are original. Enjoy.
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Old 06-24-2017, 11:41 PM   #3229
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Here's a list of a few proposals that I came up with:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing

Some ideas are standard/borrowed, some are original. Enjoy.
The one that would be a problem is the Alewife/Mass Ave busway alongside Alewife Brook Parkway. 4(f) issues would prevent that one.
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Old 09-27-2017, 04:00 PM   #3230
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Just brainstorming while shopping at Wegmans in Westwood: Assume the Orange Line extended down to the 128 station (thats the crazy part). Without cannibalizing University Ave, is there any good way to turn University Station into a legit Transit Oriented Development?

Thereís plenty of open land available, even after everything gets built up, since thereís plenty of parking. You canít really eat into the Wegmans lot too much (its the one part of the lots that fills up reliably, for obvious reasons), but you could build out the shops adjacent to the main road. Then, maybe a skybridge or two over the road, to connect an Orange Line station (ideally built just a tad closer to the shopping than the Commuter Rail station) to the shops/apartments.
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:51 PM   #3231
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I suppose that you could build on the parking lots and redevelop the eastern side of University Ave to get more density, but the area seems boxed in.

If you're extending the Orange Line it's better to extend it through West Roxbury to Dedham because there is a corridor of malls and big box stores you could redevelop that are not necessarily currently near transit, while Westwood has the commuter rail station you could simply improve frequencies on.
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Old 09-28-2017, 08:09 AM   #3232
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I suppose that you could build on the parking lots and redevelop the eastern side of University Ave to get more density, but the area seems boxed in.

If you're extending the Orange Line it's better to extend it through West Roxbury to Dedham because there is a corridor of malls and big box stores you could redevelop that are not necessarily currently near transit, while Westwood has the commuter rail station you could simply improve frequencies on.
Crazy Transit Pitches! We'll do both!
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Old 10-01-2017, 07:44 PM   #3233
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I suppose that you could build on the parking lots and redevelop the eastern side of University Ave to get more density, but the area seems boxed in.

If you're extending the Orange Line it's better to extend it through West Roxbury to Dedham because there is a corridor of malls and big box stores you could redevelop that are not necessarily currently near transit, while Westwood has the commuter rail station you could simply improve frequencies on.
How do you get to Dedham with the Orange through WRox? The old ROW is built over. Unless you're going to hard-turn elevate it over the VFW Pky and the Boston-Prov Hwy...
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Old 10-01-2017, 08:30 PM   #3234
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How do you get to Dedham with the Orange through WRox? The old ROW is built over. Unless you're going to hard-turn elevate it over the VFW Pky and the Boston-Prov Hwy...
This is Crazy Transit Pitches you can just tunnel it until the Dedham Mall.
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Old 10-01-2017, 10:26 PM   #3235
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I still think the best option is to complete the NSRL and increase commuter rail frequency's to rapid transit like levels. Also revise the 40b program to incentivise development around commuter rail stations. Add in some sort of congestion pricing along and inside of 128 to convince people to use the system more often. Also create a suburban ring commuter rail line along 128. The suburban commuter rail line could connect to all of the 128 offices in Waltham, Burlington, Woburn, Braintree, Needham, etc. It could start in Salem and use an unused row out to 128.
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Old 10-23-2017, 06:03 PM   #3236
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This is a highway crazy pitch: Build a giant (oddly-shaped) rotary on top of the Braintree split, and use that as an intermediary for all three exits next to it (or at least Burgin and Granite).
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:37 PM   #3237
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Would short turns at Back Bay be able to free up slots in South Station to accommodate the (extra) express trains that RI wants? Can Back Bay even do short turns?
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Old 11-08-2017, 10:51 AM   #3238
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^ I'm skeptical but I don't know for sure.

You might be able to send some trains south at the Channel and then down the Fairmont line thought...
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:41 AM   #3239
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What is the minimal turn around time at South Station? It seems to me that it should be pretty quick for passengers to debark, the operator to walk to the other end, and a brakeman to conduct the required brake test. I'd think any given track could handle three trains per hour, does that sound about right? If so, then how many trains per hour does South Station handle during peak? I find it hard to believe that they are actually at capacity for more than occasional brief periods throughout the day.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:27 AM   #3240
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Hereís a different idea:

https://www.siemens.com/global/en/ho.../ehighway.html

Siemens is currently building out a system of catenary wires for trucks equipped with a new style of pantograph, sort of a middle ground between traditional semis and proper trains.

So, my crazy pitch is to use this for trucks around the city, particularly in the more industrial areas or areas that still have their trackless trolleys (Iíd suggest more, but I know a lot of people donít like how the catenary wires look). Possibly some of the highways, too, like in Siemensí design here. The MBTA could basically license out the right to use their lines, for a source of revenue. The vehicles would need to be either hybrid or have good sized batteries, for times when they hop offf the wires, possibly to go down side streets.

Assuming for the moment that we had enough of these in residential areas, imagine if, say, your garbage truck or UPS truck was an electric vehicle, running silently, instead of a noisy and smelly diesel (though you cant avoid the garbe smell!).
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