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Old 11-17-2017, 10:27 PM   #761
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Well, the Orange is the last one to get stuff that has long been put in for other lines eons ago, it seems. Every line has GPS except the Orange Line. :roll:
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Old 11-18-2017, 09:39 PM   #762
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Huh? The new signal technology they are going to use now wasn't there when the EL was replaced, and they did implement ATC (just like on the Red) when it was shifted?
The technology didnt exist?

Really?

So why were BART and WMATA running 100% automated trains decades earlier?
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Old 11-18-2017, 11:09 PM   #763
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Well, the Orange is the last one to get stuff that has long been put in for other lines eons ago, it seems. Every line has GPS except the Orange Line. :roll:
Both the green and blue still use old wayside signaling and have no ATC at all. AFIAK, the green line was the last line to get "GPS"/train tracking (after the highspeed, of course). Also, why would the Orange Line use GPS when it goes in tunnels...

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The technology didnt exist?

Really?

So why were BART and WMATA running 100% automated trains decades earlier?
I meant what they are putting in now vs what did decades ago on the Red and Orange and that they couldn't have put this in before on the Orange (not really ATC vs ATO), they did use pretty recent technology for the time for the ATC system. I also wouldn't exactly put WMATA up there as a shining example of ATO, considering I don't think they are even using it again due to remaining safety concerns
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Old 11-19-2017, 06:44 PM   #764
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Re: New Red and Orange Line Cars

Here's a pic of the 1st four new MBTA Orange Line rail cars wrapped up & ready to go. To be loaded onto a ship to set sail for Boston.


http://www.progressiverailroading.co...-Line-cars.jpg

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Old 11-19-2017, 07:04 PM   #765
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Both the green and blue still use old wayside signaling and have no ATC at all. AFIAK, the green line was the last line to get "GPS"/train tracking (after the highspeed, of course). Also, why would the Orange Line use GPS when it goes in tunnels...



I meant what they are putting in now vs what did decades ago on the Red and Orange and that they couldn't have put this in before on the Orange (not really ATC vs ATO), they did use pretty recent technology for the time for the ATC system. I also wouldn't exactly put WMATA up there as a shining example of ATO, considering I don't think they are even using it again due to remaining safety concerns
WMATA paused their automated system after the Takoma incident but is back to automated.
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WMATA paused their automated system after the Takoma incident but is back to automated.
Really? As of what I read back in April, it seemed like they were not bringing it back anytime soon.
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Really? As of what I read back in April, it seemed like they were not bringing it back anytime soon.
Hm, youre right, they took another step back. The red line was automated again back in 2014.

https://wamu.org/story/17/04/06/metr...omated-trains/

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