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Old 11-03-2014, 02:08 PM   #1
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I'll let lynqueezy post the photo of the construction fence again. Since construction has begun, it seems reasonable to spin this one off into a separate thread.

Best rendering from BRA Presentation:
http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthor...2-5b99c65d041b



Height: 24 stories with roof terrace referred to as 25th floor. Approved for 285'.
Completion: 2016

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Old 11-03-2014, 02:54 PM   #2
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Old 11-03-2014, 03:01 PM   #3
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She's a slender one.
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Old 11-03-2014, 03:42 PM   #4
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Love the density.
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Old 11-03-2014, 04:25 PM   #5
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Old 11-03-2014, 06:20 PM   #6
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Height: 24 stories with roof terrace referred to as 25th floor. Height in feet unknown, but based on 15' per floor it's probably something between 380' and 400'.
Completion: 2016
15' per floor for a residential? You nuts???

This one looks barely over 300'.
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Old 11-03-2014, 06:24 PM   #7
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15' per floor for a residential? You nuts???

This one looks barely over 300'.
Lol, good catch. 15' is absurd. This probably has a 9' to 10' FTF. The zoning was requested at 285'.

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Old 11-03-2014, 08:07 PM   #8
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These two buildings will be quite the addition to the area. They really will improve it for the better.
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Old 11-04-2014, 08:56 AM   #9
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15' per floor for a residential? You nuts???

This one looks barely over 300'.
I googled it in a rush. I'm not a developer. I fixed the post. No need for the "nuts" and "absurd," guys.

Incidentally, Cambridge Seven has killed their promo site for this project, even though it still comes up in Google searches (and gives you non-functional links). I was hoping for some more detail or updates, but no luck.

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Old 11-04-2014, 09:12 AM   #10
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These two buildings will be quite the addition to the area. They really will improve it for the better.
Agreed big time, good way to step down from the High Spine.
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Old 11-04-2014, 02:18 PM   #11
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Height: 24 stories with roof terrace referred to as 25th floor. Approved for 285'.
Completion: 2016

The sign says 27 stories. There must have been some changes since that presentation.
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Note in the image above the PDA Approval was for 25 stories (251') and the building was slightly increased in height when it came back. 27 is consistent with 285'.
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Old 11-04-2014, 03:06 PM   #13
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I also just noted that these projects eliminate the small parking lot at the end of St. Germain Street (not the public lot that this project replaces, but the private lot for St. Germain residents), and creates a park there (per the plans).
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:50 PM   #14
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Is there a third building being built, the one in Huntington ave
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Old 11-04-2014, 06:57 PM   #15
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Is there a third building being built, the one in Huntington ave
It's part of their master plan. But there haven't been any renders or documents filed for it AFAIK.
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Old 11-04-2014, 09:08 PM   #16
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I'm pretty sure not building it was how extra height was allowed. But I hope they repropose it under Walsh who thinks very differently about height.
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I'm pretty sure not building it was how extra height was allowed. But I hope they repropose it under Walsh who thinks very differently about height.
Amen.

Not to get too off topic, but do we know of any plans to redevelop the motel across the street? I remember hearing that the Church owned it awhile back and wasn't sure if there were any proposals for that land. It's such a waste of space as is. I wouldn't be surprised if anything built on the motel parcel ends up being about the height of the buildings on each side of it, so 12-15 floors, thanks to residents of the South End, but that parcel has the potential to go much higher.
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Old 11-04-2014, 11:25 PM   #18
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Not to get too off topic, but do we know of any plans to redevelop the motel across the street? I remember hearing that the Church owned it awhile back and wasn't sure if there were any proposals for that land. It's such a waste of space as is. I wouldn't be surprised if anything built on the motel parcel ends up being about the height of the buildings on each side of it, so 12-15 floors, thanks to residents of the South End, but that parcel has the potential to go much higher.
I haven't heard of any plans recently, but that site (The Midtown Hotel) is immediately adjacent to the the St Botolph Street Architectural Conservation District. Getting anything tall there will be a challenge, which is probably why the hotel has remained for so long.
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Old 11-05-2014, 10:51 AM   #19
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I haven't heard of any plans recently, but that site (The Midtown Hotel) is immediately adjacent to the the St Botolph Street Architectural Conservation District. Getting anything tall there will be a challenge, which is probably why the hotel has remained for so long.
There has been a long term commitment to not go higher on the site. It has been close to development several times in the past few decades, it just always misses the real estate cycle.
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Old 11-06-2014, 08:22 AM   #20
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Thanks you guys, good to know. Even if we ended up with 5-6 stories and an active retail streetwall that would be a huge improvement.
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