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Old 08-20-2017, 02:09 PM   #2481
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Agreed. I get that superstition isn't a rational thing - but people have to know that floor 14 is really floor 13 right? Is that still comforting to them? I really don't understand the thought process.
Sometimes they do actually skip it (and use say 13 for internal stuff), but, yeah normally its so stupid. Anyways, they are skipping 4, 13, and 44 - Millennium I believe skipped 13 and 44.

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Old 08-20-2017, 02:45 PM   #2482
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As the article said, this habit may seem quaint to us Americans but it is a long and enduring tradition in Asian cultures. The Four Seasons, an important brand in that part of the world, understands its clients.
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Old 08-20-2017, 06:47 PM   #2483
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From Mass Ave/Mem Drive, 8/13:
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Old 08-20-2017, 08:56 PM   #2484
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As the article said, this habit may seem quaint to us Americans but it is a long and enduring tradition in Asian cultures. The Four Seasons, an important brand in that part of the world, understands its clients.

Oh, I know. The amusing part to me, though, was that right before that article came out, they were saying that they were not catering to foreign/Chinese investors, and that the majority of the tower would go to local buyers, and then a few weeks later say how not only are they skipping 13 for westerners, but also 4 & 44 for foreign Chinese.
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Old 08-20-2017, 09:29 PM   #2485
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Yes, true. Hard to say no to all cash deals.
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Old 08-21-2017, 07:12 AM   #2486
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As the article said, this habit may seem quaint to us Americans but it is a long and enduring tradition in Asian cultures. The Four Seasons, an important brand in that part of the world, understands its clients.
Think about the irony of the statements. Skipping floors 4 and 44 as unlucky numbers (they sound like the word for death in Chinese), in a building branded Four Seasons.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:31 AM   #2487
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IMG_8422 by David Z, on Flickr
Thanks for posting. I love the Pru. Love it. There are some unflattering angles over there. That one is tough.
i'll never understand how we got (111 Huntington). 1 Dalton will balance and edify this part of Back Bay.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:03 PM   #2488
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Think about the irony of the statements. Skipping floors 4 and 44 as unlucky numbers (they sound like the word for death in Chinese), in a building branded Four Seasons.
I know. Go figure.
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:54 PM   #2489
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Wish it was 88 stories tall.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:11 PM   #2490
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Wish it was 88 stories tall.
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Old 08-21-2017, 09:35 PM   #2491
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Think about the irony of the statements. Skipping floors 4 and 44 as unlucky numbers (they sound like the word for death in Chinese), in a building branded Four Seasons.
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I know. Go figure.
The difference is that, even to a Mandarin speaker, "Four Seasons" will be pronounced "Four Seasons". It won't be translated into the Mandarin words for "four" and "seasons". But when referencing floor numbers, a Mandarin speaker would use the Mandarin word for "four".
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Old 08-21-2017, 10:10 PM   #2492
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Old 08-21-2017, 11:42 PM   #2493
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That's some very nice looking glass there. Between this and Millennium we'll have two of the nicest looking residential towers anywhere imo.
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Old 08-22-2017, 07:08 AM   #2494
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The difference is that, even to a Mandarin speaker, "Four Seasons" will be pronounced "Four Seasons". It won't be translated into the Mandarin words for "four" and "seasons". But when referencing floor numbers, a Mandarin speaker would use the Mandarin word for "four".
The Chinese-Americans I know still consider four in English to be bad luck, even though it is spoken in English and not translated. I would suspect, given the English skill level in China, that would have to be something of an issue, even if not translated.

Also the Four Seasons Hotel Group, in their Chinese website, does in fact translate the name as 四季 -- four seasons. Pronounced Siji, which could be mistaken as death season. So I still don't get the success factor of the brand with Chinese.
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I agree about the glass, it's looking nice.
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Actual curved glass? Fancy.
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Old 08-22-2017, 12:17 PM   #2497
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Actual curved glass? Fancy.
How noticeable is actual curved glass compared to angular polygons that define a similar shape? I have to believe that the curve is incredibly expensive.
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Old 08-22-2017, 06:10 PM   #2498
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Curved glass really sets a building apart. I have been ogling 50 West Street, here in NYC because the of the curved glass:

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Old 08-22-2017, 07:41 PM   #2499
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i'm still super excited for 1 dalton, but just doing minimal research on that one ^^^ (50 west street) it's hard not to get jealous. hopefully 1 dalton manages (although none of the renders, including those at night, suggest this) to have a nifty, lit crown like 50 west st. will. it looks like the little four seasons "tree logo" will be lit and that's nice, but *very* subtle. but, hey - maybe that'll work in a really cool way.
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That was my first thought as well. Thank goodness they didn't cheap out on that or this thing would look like some angular '80s reject.
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