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Old 07-12-2018, 11:45 AM   #1
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Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

NOTE: THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT EXPERIMENT AT THIS TIME. THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL PROPOSAL BEFORE THE BPDA. NOTHING HAS BEEN FILED.

Steve Adams is reporting in a paywalled B&T article that the City asked developers if they had ideas to use municipal properties to build housing. Cronin Group responded with this 700 footer.

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Boston asked for ideas for building housing on municipal properties. One developer submitted plans for a 700-foot tower over City Hall Annex https://t.co/OjDLyipEXc

https://twitter.com/SteveAdamsTweet/...39360197844993








It would somehow be built on top of this with the base preserved:

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Old 07-12-2018, 11:46 AM   #2
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City Hall Annex Tower | 26 Court Street | Financial District

I'm not sure how seriously to take this, since like the rest of the world I don't pay for B&T...

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Boston asked for ideas for building housing on municipal properties. One developer submitted plans for a 700-foot tower over City Hall Annex
https://twitter.com/SteveAdamsTweet/...39360197844993

(there's a picture, but I can't seem to embed it...)
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:48 AM   #3
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Lol, I beat you by a minute. I've got supplemental pix in my thread.
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Old 07-12-2018, 11:53 AM   #4
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

This was already discussed back in early May in the "What's Happening With Project X" thread on pages 47-48. It's the 5th PDF in here, starting with Copy of Cronin....

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...C2xNovWw0Vrcgb
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

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This was already discussed back in early May in the "What's Happening With Project X" thread on pages 47-48. It's the 5th PDF in here, starting with Copy of Cronin....

https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...C2xNovWw0Vrcgb
Thank you very much. Processing grabs now and will add to OP.
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:09 PM   #6
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

Wouldn't a 700 footer here cast a shadow on the Common? That would be an instant deal breaker with the new shadow bank deal right?
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:17 PM   #7
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No.... it would cast it's rapidly sweeping shadow on Beacon Hill, incl the State House, the West End and North End...

Could very well go higher than 700'.

# of floors indicates about 725'. FAA is at least that high.

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Old 07-12-2018, 12:21 PM   #8
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Wouldn't a 700 footer here cast a shadow on the Common? That would be an instant deal breaker with the new shadow bank deal right?
I actually doubt that it'd be able to. The site's located due northeast of the Common and I think shadows would only barely fall in that direction on mornings around the summer solstice, if ever.
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Old 07-12-2018, 12:41 PM   #9
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Not to mention One Beacon would likely block some of the shadows (or already casts).
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:07 PM   #10
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As to my opinion.... I love the boldness. The tower seems pretty cool, although maybe a little overly similar to MT and with another flat roof for Boston. The shape reminds me of the Hancock a bit, with a wide side and super thin side.

I like that the gut/rehab plan will save the old building's facade for the long haul.

I'm not thrilled at the way it basically crowds up to 1 Boston Place. I'm one of the few here who (really) like that tower a lot. However, it's still easily an overall net positive for the city in my estimation.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:22 PM   #11
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

https://www.suncalc.org/#/42.3587,-7...31/06:55/214/0

There would not be any shadows on the common other than near the summer solstice, but before 7 AM, so there should be no issues.
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:33 PM   #12
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

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This was already discussed back in early May...
My recycled thoughts...

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That's quite handsome, and a Boston-rarity -- a tall building that actively asserts its height.

I'm curious about the state of the interior of 26 Court Street. As a City-owned property, I'll guess that it's been modified unsympathetically, at least since the BPS took over occupancy in the late 60s. Here's an interesting piece from three years ago on the history of this site.

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Well this came out of left field.
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As for the future of 26 Court St., Mayor Marty Walsh's office says the city is exploring options for the property, which is currently assessed at $34 million.
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But I have to believe that the owners of 1 Boston Place would put up quite a fight.
Perhaps, but is it any worse than what we see in Winthrop Square?
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Old 07-12-2018, 01:42 PM   #13
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https://www.suncalc.org/#/42.3587,-7...31/06:55/214/0

There would not be any shadows on the common other than near the summer solstice, but before 7 AM, so there should be no issues.
That is one nifty tool. I think since this is a rare spot in downtown where shadow itself isn't detrimental to the Common, it would make sense to try for the maximum height here.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:28 PM   #14
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

If a developer saves the shell of the existing building (a la Custom House expansion 100+ yrs ago); if the developer spends some money dressing up Court Square to realize its latent charm; then make it 1000 feet tall with a giant mechanical dog bone on top as far as I care!
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:54 PM   #15
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

your approval notwithstanding, does anyone think this would ever have a snowball's chance in hell?
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:08 PM   #16
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I'm not thrilled at the way it basically crowds up to 1 Boston Place. I'm one of the few here who (really) like that tower a lot. However, it's still easily an overall net positive for the city in my estimation.
Just my opinion, but I find 1 Boston Place the ugliest tall building in Boston and it ruins the skyline. So hiding it is sure a win in my book! Just my humble opinion though! To each their own.
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Old 07-12-2018, 07:22 PM   #17
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Re: Residential Tower | 26 Court St. | Government Center

Nice idea, its like that huge tower in BK with the old bank building preserved...
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:37 PM   #18
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your approval notwithstanding, does anyone think this would ever have a snowball's chance in hell?
Ooooooh! Fun! Patronizing the pup.

To your question, city makes money, no shadow problems, few, if any, residential neighbors. As long as the developer isn't that bunch of Bromfield morons for whom you are a constant apologist, why not?
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Oh fuck yeah, that's dope.
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Nice idea, its like that huge tower in BK with the old bank building preserved...
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