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Old 11-27-2013, 11:30 AM   #381
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Press Herald's editorial page editor weighs in on Midtown NIMBYs:

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“We think the delay may be a deal breaker (for the developer),” Monro said Tuesday. “The power to delay is the power to destroy.”

What a jerk!

While it would have been nice to see the height and density closer to the spine of the city.......we can't have it all. My only hope is that the buildings look better than some of the recent stuff that has been built. I feel like there has been a lack of creativeness when it comes to lines, materials, etc. I don't expect the Taj Mahal as corporations have shareholders and investors to answer to........but I don't think that any of us want all of the new buildings in Portland to look like Anywhere, USA either. I want a mini-Boston........not a mini-Kansas City.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:13 PM   #382
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Hmmm, I'm not going to say who this mystery person is laying the hammer down on their comment section, but feel free to look and/or add

https://www.facebook.com/KeepPortlandLivable
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:44 PM   #383
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How long before this guy sets his sights on Thompson's Point?

If he manages to kill this project and any other project in this town, then no more future viable development (at least for the next decade or two) and higher rents will be on his head.

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Old 11-27-2013, 01:40 PM   #384
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Lol, dude is getting violated on his own Facebook page and I haven't even warmed up yet
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:36 PM   #385
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Take him down grittys!
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:31 PM   #386
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Monro appears to have a column slotted in Saturday's Press Herald:
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The road forward forks here, for the neighborhood and the city as a whole. The tsunami of development on the horizon for Portland’s peninsula will either reshape this city in its own traditions as a livable and walkable set of mixed-income neighborhoods with good-paying jobs and family housing, or it will use our livability as bait for a city hollowed out for tourists and the wealthy.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:01 AM   #387
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http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/M...d_better_.html

Not sure when the comment will be approved but I left a time bomb on Mr. Monro's article. No fucking around this time. Hope he enjoys it and would love to hear his comeback to any of it.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:51 AM   #388
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midtown is up for final approval before the planning board on Tuesday. If you support this project make sure to show up and say as much to the board. Those who are against it will surely be out in force. It begins at 5:00 P.M. at City Hall. Don't be bashful.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:06 PM   #389
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I have already emailed my brief comments supporting the project.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:19 PM   #390
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I don't think there is any concern about it passing. It's what that dingbat is going to do to hold it up. Again, what could monro possibly use as a case for suing? Should be laughed out of court
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:04 AM   #391
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lol, look at the poll results. That is called a blowout. Let's see Munro respond to that.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Bays...a_project.html
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:17 AM   #392
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I'm toying with the idea of creating a Facebook page that would be the answer to Monro's "Keep Portland Liveable" page. It'd be funny if that page could get more likes in one day than Monro has managed over a couple months.
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:25 AM   #393
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I've been wanting to do that forever! Call it grow portland or citizens for smart portland growth or something better than those 2 crappy examples I gave you. Good place to post daily articles from papers and have a place where we can gather people to fight the nimbys
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Old 12-09-2013, 01:33 PM   #394
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I just dropped this bomb on the Press Herald comment sections of the articles today:

The opponents to this project say that this is an out-of-state developer, with no ties to the area, just coming in and building what they want. That is incorrect. While the Federated Companies is based in Miami, FL, the bulk of the planning and consulting work has been completed to date by local companies, including:

Shinberg Consulting – Portland, ME (developer’s representative)
Fay, Spofford & Thorndike – South Portland, ME (civil engineers)
Mitchell & Associates – Portland, ME (landscape architect)
The Louis Berger Group – Portland, ME (traffic engineer)
Owen & Haskell – Falmouth, ME (land survey)
CWS Architects – Portland, ME (parking garage architect)
Drummond Woodsum – Portland, ME (legal counsel)

In addition to this, Federated Companies previously owned the Bayside Village student housing on Marginal Way. Prior to their purchase of that property, the Bayside Village was mired in mismanagement and rowdy tenant behavior. Federated was able to rehabilitate the property, and today it stands as a testament to their apartment management ability and strengths.

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The property associated with Phase One of this development is currently made up of five parcels that are assessed at a total of $880,900. The City owns these properties, so they are not collecting any real estate taxes on the properties. However, based on the City’s mill rate of $19.41, they could be collecting $17,098 annually in real estate taxes in their current state if they were owned by a for-profit entity. Phase One of this development is slated to cost around $38,000,000. If that were to hold as the project’s assessed value, then Phase One alone would generate $737,580 annually in real estate taxes, which is a 4214% increase from the $17,098 these properties could be generating in their current state today.

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The opponents of this project state that the developer is getting a $9 million in Portland taxpayer money to build the project. However, the opponents fail to mention that the $9 million is part of a Federal Department of Housing and Urban Development grant that is going towards the construction of the parking garage, which the city is requiring to be built. None of that money is coming out of Portland tax-payers pockets, at least directly. It is a miniscule fraction of Portland residents Federal tax dollars.

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The opponents of this project state that this project has been rushed through the approval process. This is incorrect. Federated entered into a purchase-agreement with the City for this property in July 2011, and the planning process began before that. The developers and their representatives have gone through dozens of meetings with city planners and the Planning Board and have revised the project numerous times to account for the City’s wishes and demands. This project has been well over two years in the making. The opponents are stepping in at the last minute, when they had ample opportunity to have their say over the past two years. They are now threatening legal action due to their own procrastination, stating “To delay is to destroy.” Is this the kind of message we want to send to developers - to spend millions of dollars planning and proposing something, only to have a handful of people shut you down at the last minute? Think of the time, effort, and money that has been spent. These aren’t mythical robots dreaming up ideas in Florida and shipping them north. These are local architects, engineers, and consultants that have spent the better part of the last two years putting their time, sweat and tears into this thing.

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The opponents of this project state that the scale of this project is not necessary to make the economics of building market-rate housing work for the developer to move forward. They point to the in-fill development of smaller market-rate housing on Munjoy Hill as examples. However, the opponents fail to mention that those in-fill projects are (a) not being built upon filled land, which requires additional costs to build a proper foundation, (b) not being built on former industrial and railroad land, which requires additional costs to environmentally evaluate and remediate, and (c) being built with an average rental cost that far exceeds the average rental rate in the City and the average expected rental rate in the Midtown project apartments. The Munjoy Hill in-fill projects are raising rents throughout that neighborhood, pushing middle-income families off of the peninsula or to less desirable areas.

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The opponents of this project complain that the developer has so far placed all of the open spaces on the "north-shaded-side" of the project. However, that is the side that faces the Bayside Trail, hence why it is the logical place to add open space. The south-side of the project faces a street. Keep Portland Livable has released renderings of a potential development in the proposed footprint of the Midtown project that ironically also puts most of the open space on the Bayside Trail side of this project. In fact, it appears as though they’re proposing almost exactly the same kind of open space that Federated is proposing along the Bayside Trail and the north side of Somerset Street. Federated is not developing the lots across Somerset Street (as Keep Portland Livable’s renderings propose), where more open space could, in theory, be developed and would never be in the shadow of this project.

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The opponents of this project complain that the project will cast a shadow on the Bayside Trail and surrounding area. One City Center and One Monument Square cast a shadow on Monument Square over a portion of the day, and Monument Square has some of the highest foot traffic of any open space in the entire city. Deering Oaks Park also includes dozens of large trees that cast shadows on that open space. Does everyone among us require constant sunlight during the day, or do some of us appreciate occasional shade, especially in the midday heat of the summer? The entire length of the Bayside Trail from the Eastern Prom Trail to the proposed extension to Deering Oaks Park will not be in the shadow of these buildings. Keep Portland Livable has released renderings of their ideal potential development in the proposed footprint of the Midtown project that includes three 9-10 story buildings and two 4-5 story parking garages. Ironically, these buildings would also cast shadows on the Bayside Trail during a large portion of the day.

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The opponents of this project state that the buildings will block the view of the downtown spine of buildings along Congress Street. However, if you are driving along I-295 northbound or southbound, your view of the downtown spine of buildings will only be blocked by these buildings along the stretch of highway where Bayside Village and 84 Marginal Way already block that view. As you approach from the north or south, you will still be able to see the downtown spine of buildings. The view from Marginal Way will be blocked, so the few that appreciate the view from Marginal Way will have to seek another view corridor. Keep Portland Livable has released renderings of their ideal potential development in the proposed footprint of the Midtown project that includes three 9-10 story buildings and two 4-5 story parking garages. Ironically, these would also block the view of the downtown spine of buildings from Marginal Way.

These buildings will not block the view of the downtown spine of buildings from across Back Cove, as the base floors of the buildings along Congress Street are already 80-120 feet above sea level. The high-rises associated with this project are being built much closer to sea level and will top out at 165 feet, meaning you will still be able to see a large portion of the tops of the downtown spine of buildings from across Back Cove.

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This is a good deal, Portland. Don’t let Peter Monro and his change-fearing cronies talk you out of this.

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Old 12-09-2013, 01:53 PM   #395
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Damn man, you just murdered that. I hand my press herald comment section title over to you
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Old 12-09-2013, 02:13 PM   #396
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You can keep the title. With great power comes great responsibility, and I lack social etiquette sometimes when I really get fired up. LOL

Since I can’t speak at tomorrow night’s meeting, it was the least I could do. My next step is to wait for Peter Monro to file his petty little lawsuit. I might follow that with a “Boycott Monro Associates” campaign.

Speaking of which, this Monro guy maintains not one, but two Linkedin profiles, and his current occupations are listed as a blogger for his own blog and co-founder for that Keep Portland Livable crapola. Seems to me that this whole campaign of his is either (a) out of sheer boredom and wanting something to do or (b) a ploy to get some publicity and maybe a job. Oddly enough, he used to work as a reporter and editor for a couple newspapers, hence why the Press Herald is probably giving this guy so much more of a voice than he normally would have. He’s probably connected to a decision-maker there.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:45 PM   #397
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Peter Monro belongs on an episode of the bizarre TV show Portlandia. On the show he can play himself and make fun of "The other Portland". Calling Portland, Maine being too hipster-like and how he loves a real, small urban city. He should find a city/village where a nimby is loved. Somewhere more remote like Canada, where his progressive thought process can be accepted without judgement. He appears to want the Bayside neighborhood to have the same boring brick 3-5 story building, with a charming village-like setting. Which in my opinion is not urban at all.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:54 PM   #398
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Can somebody please print and read that at the meeting? You give your permission, right dr. Strangehat?
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:40 AM   #399
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Can somebody please print and read that at the meeting? You give your permission, right dr. Strangehat?
Absolutely, permission granted. I made edits to the post above to fix a few spelling and grammar errors, so use that one.
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Old 12-10-2013, 03:53 PM   #400
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OK, so who's going to relay the play-by-play of the meeting for those of us that can't be there? We (or maybe just I) need updates!!!
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