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Old 02-13-2019, 08:27 AM   #4081
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Re: Four Seasons Tower @ CSC | 1 Dalton Street | Back Bay

Not sure if it just needs to be cleaned or completely revamped but the Pru does look dirty and dull these days.
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Old 02-13-2019, 08:46 AM   #4082
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^ I agree. They need to at least polish the aluminum window mullions.

Our old pal Lurker has a great idea for a refresh.
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Old 02-13-2019, 09:14 AM   #4083
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Each cluster of floors above each mech floor is 9 floors, the crown is 3. I wonder if they did a glass reclad if they could build out the top to be flush and add 6 more floors on top. I wonder if the structure could handle adding another 6 floors to form another cluster.

Then add a decorative crown on top of these floors and maybe a decorative spire with a radome covering it with the antennas inside like what 1wtc was supposed to do. Bring the decorative spire to 990í, decorative spires even if similar looking to an antenna count towards height like with 1wtc so we have a supertall and new tallest. The roof height would also be over 800ft with these 6 floors.

It would all be necessary too not a height gimmick. The 9 floors add office space to what wasnt there before. The glass reclad brings the building up to 21st century efficiency standards. On the new cluster you could take only the top floor for the restaurant, then put an outdoor observation deck on the top of the roof, with a glassed in section for elevators or weather. Then the antenna would reach the same height it does today just counted different if its an architectural spire, and it would keep its communications and antennas.

I like the PRU as is, but if they did some high quality glass and maybe even used metal on the outside of the glass to echo the original facade while improving the performance thatd be great. Using glass with aluminum panels like wtc3 in Beijing could be great if they made it mimick the Pruís facade. I think thatd be a win.

This is a modern high efficiency facade designed to mimick older facades of the 70ís


You could definitely use a facade like this to evoke the original Pru


You could do a similar crown, light it, add antenna, boom done

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Old 02-16-2019, 10:04 AM   #4084
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:15 PM   #4085
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damn this thing's a stunner. absolutely gorgeous.
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:17 PM   #4086
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why does JHT look like someone sunk the bottom 15~20 floors into the Back Bay muck??
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:22 PM   #4087
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Because that's its fattest angle, its base is obscured, and it's farther away than it looks. It's an optical illusion but you already knew that.
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:52 PM   #4088
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:00 PM   #4089
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Old 02-17-2019, 09:29 AM   #4090
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Old 02-17-2019, 02:39 PM   #4091
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Wooow that glass looks great!
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:38 PM   #4092
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Is the antenna still going up? Id expect it to go up while the crane is still there. Are they installed last?
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:06 PM   #4093
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that crane is gonna come down any minute.
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:42 PM   #4094
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Drove in on the Pike around 6 - the entire tower including the crane is in darkness. Really odd.
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Old 02-17-2019, 11:07 PM   #4095
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Yep, I noticed that too. Pretty creepy. I went past around 9. It was like it had disappeared.
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Old 02-18-2019, 12:49 AM   #4096
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Yep, I noticed that too. Pretty creepy. I went past around 9. It was like it had disappeared.
That's the Boston skyline for ya.
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Old 02-18-2019, 03:41 PM   #4097
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Yeah this thing looks like a gem on the skyline!
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Old 02-18-2019, 05:09 PM   #4098
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During the day anyway!! Never mind 'lit up...'

Visible rooftops (showing tower rooftops actually exist) aren't allowed after twilight hours in Boston.


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You could definitely use a facade like this to evoke the original Pru


You could do a similar crown, light it, add antenna, boom done


So sad there is virtually no hope of getting even an ~870' version of this in Boston.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:08 AM   #4099
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i bumped it....

i f___ing bumped it

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Whats up with the antenna on 1 Dalton? Was this just a rumor? Or are we going to wake up the day before the crane comes down to a new spire? Its either happening soon or its not happening.
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It's a rumor that started because someone looked at the FAA filing for the project and it has a permanent antenna height structure in the filing... this could be several things:

1. Filed prematurely (as in we might do this someday, so we want to permit for it now).
2. Filed mistakenly (as in, it was the crane height and someone goofed)
3. Filed correctly but weirdly (perhaps if a structure is going to be up long enough it needs to be marked "permanent" regardless of whether it's actually temporary... that crane has been up near the top for quite a while so it's possible)

There's been zero confirmation of an antenna. It was not put through the BPDA process with an antenna. My opinion is there is no antenna and a few of our height crazy fetishes vastly over analyzed the filing.
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Why would you need antenna on One Dalton when there already are antennas on the Pru? Because the Four Seasons condo owners and the hotel needs the rental income for the balance sheets?
Why was this conversation posted on Project X? The 1 Dalton thread is bumped daily, when not hourly. Stodgy, aB thread bump avoidance etiquette has run amok.

Your rights to ask a question on a specific project thread are under grave threat. The etiquette must never run over our freedoms as individuals to bump a thread if it poses no grave threat to the community.... The potential for the vast rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.... We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the community interests and etiquette with our peaceful methods and goals, so that our security and liberty might prosper together.

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