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View Poll Results: Should we move to a new site?
Yes, move to a new forum and use Xenforo 10 47.62%
Yes, move to a new forum and use phpBB 4 19.05%
Yes, move to a new forum and use vBulletin 4 19.05%
Yes, move to a new forum and use Simple Machines 2 9.52%
No, do not move to a new forum 1 4.76%
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Old 04-10-2019, 03:16 PM   #1
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[Poll] Moving to a new forum/what software to use

Please vote

1. Xenforo ($160) https://xenforo.com/
2. phpBB (Free) https://www.phpbb.com/
3. vBulletin ($250) https://www.vbulletin.com/
4. SimpleMachines (Free) https://www.simplemachines.org/
5. Do Not Move

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Old 04-10-2019, 03:24 PM   #2
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Re: [Poll] Moving to a new forum/what software to use

I can donate $40 twice a month for a little bit to help get everything working great.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:36 PM   #3
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Re: [Poll] Moving to a new forum/what software to use

For those of us not so familiar with Forum hosting software, would you mind throwing together a little pros/cons list for each?
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:09 PM   #4
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Re: [Poll] Moving to a new forum/what software to use

I'm not super knowledgeable about all of these, so if anyone else is please chime in, but I have used websites with all of these softwares before, and have done some research on them beforehand

Xenforo
Pros:
Very user friendly
Good customization options for users
Many style options available
Cons:
Not free
Not as lightweight as other options

phpBB
Pros:
Free
Lightweight
Easy to use, both user and admins
Cons:
Visuals a little outdated
Not a lot of user customization options

vBulletin
Pros:
Good mobile experience
Better photo and video hosting than other software
Cons:
Not Free
Not as lightweight
Not as much style options as Xenforo

Simple Machines
Pros:
Free
Lightweight
Best customization options
Good user custom options
Cons:
Not as many stable add-ons as other softwares
Installing onto website not as easy as other softwares
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Old 04-13-2019, 07:46 AM   #5
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Re: [Poll] Moving to a new forum/what software to use

Isn't phpbb development essentially dead? The last major release was over 15 years ago. Are people voting for it because it's free?
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Old 04-13-2019, 10:06 AM   #6
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Isn't phpbb development essentially dead? The last major release was over 15 years ago. Are people voting for it because it's free?
The last major update was phpbb 3.2 which was released in 2016. Bug fixes/updates have continued since then with the last update released December 28th 2018 https://www.phpbb.com/community/view...f=14&t=2496526
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Old 04-18-2019, 09:47 AM   #7
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Re: [Poll] Moving to a new forum/what software to use

Non of the non-free options are a subscription, right? It's just one purchase and we're done?

If that's the case, I don't think that cost should be a con on these. We've had a few people who have offered to pony up some cash, and I would be willing to as well. If someone puts up a gofundme, I'm sure we'll make whatever we need quickly and anything on top of it can go to the monthly cost of running the servers.
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Old 04-26-2019, 08:28 AM   #8
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I'll agree with greenline, I don't think that fairly minor one-time costs should be a significant factor in the decision. I am certainly willing to kick in a few bucks as well if needed.

It may simply be a function of the what was dominant when they started, but I notice a lot of the larger forums (which this place may never be) I am on are based on vBulletin.
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Old 04-28-2019, 08:11 AM   #9
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Re: [Poll] Moving to a new forum/what software to use

I know very little about the technical side of this stuff, but I'm a sucker for nice-looking themes, so I'd lean Xenforo.

That said, we do a lot of photo posting here, but is the photo hosting capability of vBulletin helpful to us unless we buy hosting space? We had discussed regular donation systems and whether they're necessary, and one function might be photo hosting.
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:54 AM   #10
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I know very little about the technical side of this stuff, but I'm a sucker for nice-looking themes, so I'd lean Xenforo.

That said, we do a lot of photo posting here, but is the photo hosting capability of vBulletin helpful to us unless we buy hosting space? We had discussed regular donation systems and whether they're necessary, and one function might be photo hosting.
Any of the boards that offer self- file hosting allow for a size cap and/or photo dimension limit to keep storage space from getting chewed. Something taken by camera and saved natively--no effort at additional compression--to JPEG should shed enough when resized to forum-viewing dimensions to go well under 1 MB. Then it's a matter of how much compression you want to apply to achieve balance of really small file size vs. loss of detail in the photos for managing the hosting bills.

Since this is such a photo-heavy site it might be worthwhile to put a link right there in the attachment field to an online resizer app. That way the processed photos would appear relatively consistent across the whole site for people who use the feature, and the file size limit can go a bit more on the miserly side to keep the bandwidth costs down. Could be done as a link-out to a preferred free service, or there may possibly be board add-ins available that can internally handle the resizing + compression tasks and allow you to preview. Anybody who's not keen on seeing some of their photo detail lossy-compressed can just point to an outside hosting link like they do today and click the resize-to-original bar to dimensionally unshrink.
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Old 04-28-2019, 03:26 PM   #11
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I voted for Simple Machines--they offer an 'unread topics' feature to stay on top of the active discussions, and you can 'like' individual posts. Here's an example of a thread on a SM forum that I follow: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...?topic=48028.0
(That's a great forum with good mods, and I bet you could contact the site owner if you have questions about features or how he manages his site.)
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Old 04-29-2019, 08:34 AM   #12
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I voted for Simple Machines--they offer an 'unread topics' feature to stay on top of the active discussions, and you can 'like' individual posts. Here's an example of a thread on a SM forum that I follow: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/in...?topic=48028.0
(That's a great forum with good mods, and I bet you could contact the site owner if you have questions about features or how he manages his site.)
This gave me a good idea, would it be possible to link examples of each forum software?
  1. We obviously now this is vBulletin as well as SSP & SSC.
  2. The nasa one that ssresident linked is simplemachines
  3. RR.Net is pHpBB

I don't have a good examble of a xenoforo forum I guess aside from their own community forum.

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Old 05-01-2019, 01:39 AM   #13
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I'd like something simple like this but with notifications when quoted.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:43 AM   #14
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I'd like something simple like this but with notifications when quoted.
Not a big deal, but it would be nice to have the options for notifications on certain threads that are of greater interest.

Although I wouldn't make that automatic.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:44 AM   #15
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I voted xenforo, seems like it has a decent UI, and the mobile works well. I'd put simple machines in a strong second place based on that nasa website, but it doesn't seem to have a great mobile UI, which may just be that particular forum.
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:11 AM   #16
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For what it's worth:

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One of the developers of XenForo, Kier Darby, had been a lead developer for the community platform vBulletin. The original owner of vBulletin, Jelsoft, was acquired by the American new media company Internet Brands in 2007. Disagreements occurred between the developers and the new management and most of the vBulletin developers left Internet Brands in 2009. Darby and other former vBulletin developers began work on a new platform, XenForo.
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If no one has a powerful argument for another package, then Xenforo is the way to go. That's what the folks in the know want to use.
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Old 05-03-2019, 02:59 PM   #18
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Xenforo has some good administrative and modding tools if I recall correctly from the time I ran a board.
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Old 05-05-2019, 12:35 AM   #19
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Haven't read comments but is there a good program that would 1) auto-resize images so they don't come in huge? and, 2) a program where we can upload images directly?
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Haven't read comments but is there a good program that would 1) auto-resize images so they don't come in huge? and, 2) a program where we can upload images directly?
Forgive my ignorance, but I think we need a server to upload images to if we're going to do that (I'd like to). It's not just about the software.
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