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Old 12-13-2018, 09:47 AM   #4281
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Some people don't pay attention, some people have their meaning in life derived from the stuff they own, some people need to be part of a particular group/tribe/class, etc. Some people are highly willing to be duped. Some people grew up with relatively little, and are compensating. Others have always had more money than they know what to do with. Others are boring and uncreative, and need to be told what to think. Marketing will exploit all of this, obviously.
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Old 12-13-2018, 01:03 PM   #4282
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OMG yes. The Canada Goose craze is so ridiculous. People actually line up to get into the store at the Pru on weekends, to pay $800+ for a winter coat. It's nuts.
A wise man once said: "Frivolity is a stern taskmaster!"
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Old 12-13-2018, 02:59 PM   #4283
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I may have said this before so sorry if I did... my girlfriend and I cut thru copley mall all the time and we play a game to try and find the most hideous piece of clothing in the window. These rich people sure do have some baaaaad taste in things
More and more of the traditionally conservative lux brands have reacted radically to try to capture the younger instagram crowd (think weird animal faces and colorful patches). It definitely is not my cup of tea but maybe I'm just too old to understand it.

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People buy luxury items because they're a status symbol. People are not buying them because they may be more durable. Often time you can get the same quality (or better) for a fraction of the price. Prime example: Canadian Goose jackets.
I wouldn't generalize it that way (though you are right on about Canada Goose). Some luxury items definitely are of higher premium quality and durability than others, including certain shoes. The phrase "buy nice or buy twice" still rings true for some things.

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OMG yes. The Canada Goose craze is so ridiculous. People actually line up to get into the store at the Pru on weekends, to pay $800+ for a winter coat. It's nuts.
Again, completely agree here. What a ridiculous fad it is for something so "meh" in my opinion.
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Old 12-14-2018, 09:48 AM   #4284
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I have a faux-fur knee-length winter parka from Uniqlo, just a shade over $100. It's the warmest thing I've ever owned, and no animals were plucked or skinned in making it.
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Old 12-19-2018, 02:24 PM   #4285
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Rumor has it that the company which runs trivia nights on Tuesdays at the Tam expects to be there on 1/8/19...
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Old 12-20-2018, 01:31 AM   #4286
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Rumor has it that the company which runs trivia nights on Tuesdays at the Tam expects to be there on 1/8/19...
There was someone in there this evening taking all the stuff off the walls and cleaning. It's anybodies guess at this point.
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Old 12-20-2018, 09:42 AM   #4287
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What's up with Jacob Wirth's? The latest news story I can find is from August:

https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...nd-oldest.html

I assume they are done, but I can't find anything official. Their website doesn't even mention being closed.
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Old 12-20-2018, 01:59 PM   #4288
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Allbirds is opening on Newbury Street above the new Caffe Nero.

JP Licks on Newbury Street is now open - and also open in South Boston.
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Old 12-20-2018, 02:11 PM   #4289
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What's up with Jacob Wirth's? The latest news story I can find is from August:

https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...nd-oldest.html

I assume they are done, but I can't find anything official. Their website doesn't even mention being closed.
Their website doesn't, but their opentable page (linked from their website) says they're "permanently closed." https://www.opentable.com/r/jacob-wirth-boston
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Old 12-20-2018, 02:17 PM   #4290
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I heard a rumor the owner was a million dollars in debt... then a random fire in the attic a few weeks later. Then again I thought there was a sale at some point. I dunno... I don't it's coming back for awhile.

I did see the main door open and someone going in a few days ago. Also the basement entrance was open yesterday. So there might be low key work going on? A few months ago they had a huge amount of garbage piled up in the fenced in area which presumably was the fire damaged stuff.
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Old 12-20-2018, 03:00 PM   #4291
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The business owner was in debt - the building owner is a different party.
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Old 12-26-2018, 09:04 PM   #4292
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L'Espalier to close 12/31.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyl...5IM/story.html
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Old 12-26-2018, 09:14 PM   #4293
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This is sad. It was my first introduction and the the driving force behind my love of fine dining. That being said, LíEspalier probably doesnít have much more to accomplish and considering how the scene in Boston is evolving, it may be leaving at the right time. Iím interested to see what McClelland is doing next.
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Old 12-27-2018, 04:29 PM   #4294
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This is sad. It was my first introduction and the the driving force behind my love of fine dining. That being said, LíEspalier probably doesnít have much more to accomplish and considering how the scene in Boston is evolving, it may be leaving at the right time. Iím interested to see what McClelland is doing next.
I originally thought it was Boston's only five diamond establishment but there's still Menton.
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Old 12-29-2018, 03:16 PM   #4295
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The Tam is open on Monday at 3 PM.
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Old 12-29-2018, 06:21 PM   #4296
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I originally thought it was Boston's only five diamond establishment but there's still Menton.
Grill 23 is pretty great.
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Old 12-29-2018, 11:23 PM   #4297
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This is sad. It was my first introduction and the the driving force behind my love of fine dining. That being said, LíEspalier probably doesnít have much more to accomplish and considering how the scene in Boston is evolving, it may be leaving at the right time. Iím interested to see what McClelland is doing next.
Ate there last night for the first time. Was everything Iíd always wanted for the years and years Iíve put off going there. Glad I saw the globe article on Tuesday and was able to - improbably - get a reservation.

I do think itís unfortunate that truly fine dining with the degree of nuance and attention to detail I saw at LíEspalier, and recall from Hammersleyís, is so hard to come by. Iíve never been to Menton although Iíve sat at their little Gold Bar for drinks and snacks. Iím sure itís great, but the fact that itís in South Boston rather than in the beating heart of real Boston just makes it inferior to what it might be if it were in the Back Bay or even some old Lockober nook downtown. I guess thereís still New York City for this type of stuff, but itís sad that Boston is losing it. Thereís plenty of very expensive and fairly fancy places that have sprung up over the last 15 years, but I have yet to find one that truly knows how to treat the customers who expect only the very finest, particularly in the training of the waitstaff. There is simply nothing like having service who know how to perfectly strike the balance between attentiveness without being in your face about it and coming off as tryhards. I pin this all on the general loss of grace...

As for McClelland, heís opening a restaurant in Beverly, or all places.
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Grill 23 is pretty great.
Grill 23 sucks. Been and I thought it was pissed away money. The steak I had was grissle as fuck and the service was meh for the price.
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Old 12-30-2018, 12:43 AM   #4299
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Grill 23 is pretty great.
Grill 23 can be a moderate hit or a tragic and embarrassing miss in my many experiences but even on its best day it's nowhere near the caliber of L'Espalier or its peers in other cities(and I say peers in other cities because it didn't have any in Boston). In terms of the ratings L'Espalier was playing in the same league as Le Bernardin, Jean Georges and Alinea. Every city has a Grill 23.
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Grill 23 can be a moderate hit or a tragic and embarrassing miss in my many experiences but even on its best day it's nowhere near the caliber of L'Espalier or its peers in other cities(and I say peers in other cities because it didn't have any in Boston). In terms of the ratings L'Espalier was playing in the same league as Le Bernardin, Jean Georges and Alinea. Every city has a Grill 23.
What sets a place like Le Bernardin or Jean Georges apart is their service. I've been to each a few times and the level of service you receive is pretty much second to none. I've had mediocre food at both and also amazing meals at both. Food is a very subjective thing, so pleasing everyone every time is near impossible. I also don't think you can compare Grille 23 to a place like L'Espalier - they're go for different experiences and cuisine.

To each their own, I've eaten at Grille 23 numerous times and more often than not my food is great and the service is good to great.
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