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Old 01-30-2019, 10:42 PM   #641
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Re: MBTA Bus & BRT

In what's news to me, the Somerville Bike Committee's newsletter shows that bus lanes are coming to Broadway in Somerville through Winter Hill and there's a community meeting about it on Monday the 4th.

https://us12.campaign-archive.com/?u...&id=9d40b4e497
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:36 AM   #642
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I have some questions about these new proposals, primarily the proposals to bypass Ruggles station busway entirely on Route 8, Route 47, and a few others and just stop roadside... What's the point of having Ruggles be a bus station if you're moving all the buses to across the street?
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Old 01-31-2019, 10:51 AM   #643
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The bus depot adds a lot of time for through routed buses. Maybe they are moving in the direction of only having terminating routes use the depot, shaving a few minutes off the schedule for the others. Or perhaps it's just through routed buses that do not have a significant ridership share board/deboard at Ruggles that will skip the depot.
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:16 AM   #644
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The bus depot adds a lot of time for through routed buses. Maybe they are moving in the direction of only having terminating routes use the depot, shaving a few minutes off the schedule for the others. Or perhaps it's just through routed buses that do not have a significant ridership share board/deboard at Ruggles that will skip the depot.
See I would be fine with through routed buses without significant ridership at Ruggles bypassing the busway but their own route profile of Route 8 shows that Ruggles is the single highest ridership stop on the entirety of Route 8.

I would rather see them adjust the timing on the traffic light at the end of the Ruggles bus loop, switching the buses to go before the pedestrians, and maybe making the pedestrian cycle request only after maybe 9/10pm, I think its ridiculous that buses trigger the pedestrian cycle even at 11PM/1AM etc and have to sit there for the invisible peds to cross in the 25 second cycle. I think that would have a larger impact...
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Old 01-31-2019, 11:22 AM   #645
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That all makes sense, might be worth submitting a comment. I'm about 50/50 on my use of Ruggles bus lines, as to whether I originate/end the trip there verses passing through. For me, I can't stand the added time for passing through. But I'm also a pretty infrequent user of any of those bus routes.
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Old 02-04-2019, 05:55 PM   #646
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One issue I have noticed is that they are 100% focused on what stop people get on or off at...instead of the actual destination people are going or coming from.

Lets imagine a grid where you have 100 riders get off at 3rd Ave (north south) and A st (east west). You then propose shifting the line to 2nd ave, and justify it as people only having to walk one extra block. But if everyone is actually going to 4th avenue, youre now forcing a 2 block walk.

Without knowing where people are actually trying to go, it doesnt make sense to make these changes and claims.
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Old 02-04-2019, 06:11 PM   #647
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Without knowing where people are actually trying to go, it doesnt make sense to make these changes and claims.
I think they chose 3 kinds of "wasted miles" where, while not "for sure" the odds that changes were doing good vastly outnumber the odds that changes were doing harm.

Changing from dangling ends to square-to-square (95 in Medford)
Eliminating extra loops and polygons mid-route (70s on Concord Ave, some Ave Pasteur-to-Longwood Ave swaps)
Nipping off a second subway connection (136/137)

Even without knowing exactly where people were going door-to-door, you could show that you had a lot of linear bus miles that were:
- not creating extra square feet of coverage.
- double-serving the same square feet
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