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This idiot legislator was just on WBZ-AM. The sticking point for him is that CRRC is government-owned and not one of the very small number of fully private enterprises now being allowed in the country (nevermind there was no such thing as a private Chinese corp. until about 25 years ago).
I suppose this guy has never shit his pants on an Airbus jet knowing the Germans, French, and Spaniards coulda/shoulda/woulda been listening to his every thought. Or ever driven a Volkswagen. Or ever taken Amtrak or mailed a letter for that matter, if he has any delusions that gov't-owned corporations don't exist here in the Land of The Free. ![]() |
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I think it is fair for people to be skeptical of the Chinese government. I think it is also fair for legislators to not be experts on such technical matters - if they were experts, they’d be wasted as legislators.
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True story - I has a girlfriend once who had a traumatic brain injury and every now and then would start to spin off into a hypo-schizophrenic fugue and claim loudly and incessantly that the CIA was listening to her thoughts and using secret tape recorders to record all of our conversations.
It was a long time ago, she has gotten great help from a lot of great people and she's doing better now. The moral of the story is, the CIA was not actually listening to her thoughts and tape recording all of our conversations. |
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I would be less concerned with hiding transmitters and listening to conversations than inserting to code that messes with sensors and stops the cars from running. I do not know the level of extent of supply chain risk mngt the MBTA uses nor if its a worthwhile exploit, but I would say its a non zero risk with a potentially high impact.
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That was a rhetorical question, please please please don't try to answer it. |
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We have the MBTA!
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I mean if the trains are bugged, the smart thing to do is to feed it misinformation. They need to start looking at the positives.
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While rhetorical, your pompousness deserves a reply. I did not say it was likely, but if the Chinese were to do something, it would be the possibility to remotely shutoff components of your enemy's transportation network in time of war would have some value.
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This James Bond stuff was never an accurate picture of espionage...not even in the Cold War. *Soft* targets and ease of infiltration are the name of the game, not niches for proof-of-concept sake. The Soviets liked hacking the phone network. Putin's Russia likes to test the margins of website security. If we've got a reason to worry about the Chinese, it's that cell phone in your pocket and a whole lot of other cheap commodity electronics...not premium design-build engineering product. |
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