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Old 01-09-2019, 03:34 PM   #41
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Re: West Roxbury Developments

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Old 01-10-2019, 11:41 AM   #42
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This is SO controversial in my neighborhood, about the half the lawns have signs either supporting or opposing it... and it is probably worth noting the balance tips increasingly toward those 'in favor' the farther from the site you go.

I don't live close enough that it would affect me one way or another, but while my gut reaction is to support it, the stats on the existing school (posted on this site, I think) aren't particularly suggestive that it's a model population of kids you'd want running around your neighborhood (lots of suspensions and detentions etc), although then again, I don't know how that compares to other local school or what that data really 'means'.
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Old 01-10-2019, 11:56 AM   #43
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Re: West Roxbury Developments

wtf

Opposing a few Schools be built/upgrades/upsizing is really getting fully NUTS.

Throwing innocent kids under the next nimby bus is horrible.

Needham transit stops will be more urban than W.R./Rozzie/H.P. this keeps up.

That it even ignites controversy makes me ashamed to be an American today.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:31 PM   #44
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Yeah, the opposition is kind of strange. The whole thing is complicated somewhat by the fact that it's a charter school, because that brings with it a whole bunch of additional baggage. Most people who are anti-charter are nevertheless at least somewhat supportive of the school being built. Those opposed mostly speak to concerns about traffic and disruption to the "character" of the neighborhood. It is hard to find meaning in either of those concerns.

Based on the school's demographics, these kids are going to be riding buses or the Needham Line, they are not going to be driven to this location. Teachers might add slightly to traffic at brief points during the day that are not part of the peak commute time slot. So I really don't get that point at all.

As for the neighborhood character issue, I have trouble seeing that as anything other than veiled racism. The area immediately abutting the proposed school is fairly blighted, including poorly maintained triple deckers, a closed gas station, empty store fronts, and some light industrial buildings begging to be torn down and converted to first floor commerce/upper floor residential. The location itself is a closed car dealership. There really is nothing this school can do but improve the built environment. I'm pretty convinced the concern regards who will be inside the building.

Okay, rant over. Like FK4, I'm not quite so close as to be directly impacted, but I do really want something to happen on that parcel. It is the driving force behind the blight and could really turn around that stretch of Belgrade Ave. to have something (anything) with a contemporary and active use.

Last point, this belongs in the Roslindale thread. The property is close to West Roxbury, but not quite over the line from Roslindale.
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Old 01-10-2019, 08:41 PM   #45
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^I would agree, although it is 02132...
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:03 PM   #46
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Yeah, the opposition is kind of strange...
It's one thing moving into a neighborhood with an already established school, it's quite another thing having a new school imposed on your already established neighborhood. The introduction of hundreds and hundreds of teenage students on a daily basis is a huge impact and a very legitimate thing to protest if so inclined.
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It's one thing moving into a neighborhood with an already established school, it's quite another thing having a new school imposed on your already established neighborhood. The introduction of hundreds and hundreds of teenage students on a daily basis is a huge impact and a very legitimate thing to protest if so inclined.
Most opposition I have seen is that its hundreds of kids crammed into a tiny lot (with no outdoor amenities, etc). As for taking the CR - that also seems kind of iffy give the reverse commute, there are only two AM trains (07:23A & 09:24 A), although in bound isn't as bad (03:10P & 05:22P). Most seem to think there are plenty of other places in both Rozzie and Westie that would be a vastly bigger plot for the school.
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