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Old 12-08-2017, 01:25 PM   #401
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Nice. Thanks.

A couple of thoughts.

- Gap over chelsea river?
(kidding / not kidding)
The gap over the Chelsea River for the under construction route is because there won't be a dedicated ROW or bus lanes there at that point the buses will be in mixed traffic. At least I'm assuming that is why there is a gap there.
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Old 12-08-2017, 02:25 PM   #402
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The one thing that bothers me about the 64 is that most people that I've talked to about it have no idea what/where "University Park" is.
My experience with the 64 is that the rush hour trips and changes in stops served confuse any non-frequent rider, and lead to them not riding beyond Central inbound and missed buses and confusion trying to catch the bus outbound.

Whatever the utility of the two different routings is, I think it's less than the riders lost from confusion. They ought to pick one and just run that 100% of the time.
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:13 PM   #403
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The gap over the Chelsea River for the under construction route is because there won't be a dedicated ROW or bus lanes there at that point the buses will be in mixed traffic. At least I'm assuming that is why there is a gap there.
Yeah right on & I was suggesting to van that he include a new dedicated bus lane on the Chelsea St bridge to complement the under construction silver line row , and that he include the Meridien St bridge in his Meridien at bus lane proposal
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:51 PM   #404
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[quote=CSTH;308637]Nice. Thanks.

A couple of thoughts.

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- Does your Marblehead BRT use the old rail ROW? What about BRT (/trunk) marblehead-salem-peabody-128 instead / also? Other trunks feeding salem and bev CR?
Yes it uses the old ROW. And this proposal is just based on existing lines. This isn't Crazy BRT Pitches.

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- What if the mystic-north BRT continued via lowell st through lexington to Rt. 3 / Burlington Mall? (especially in crazy pitches future world where redline goes to arlington center)
Again, not Crazy BRT Pitches.

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- Is there a gap on Rutherford Ave?
Yes because all bus routes terminate at Sullivan Sq.

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- Gap over chelsea river?
Yeah, I didn't want to leave a gap but the streets in Chelsea are REALLY narrow and I don't see a good way to add bus lanes there.

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- Summer st @waterfont, and the greenway?
Summer St is a possibility. And a Waterfront/Greenway BRT line is also an idea.

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- Also you forgot the cross-allston route via Alcorn St. and West Station (kidding / not kidding)
Sure, I'll update the map in 2040.
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:54 PM   #405
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No love for Kendall? It has laughable bus service at present, so maybe that is why you overlooked it. The 64, 68, and CT2 get bogged down on Broadway outbound. I suspect auto traffic in the area will only get worse when Longfellow reopens. The EZ Ride is also an absolutely critical bus route for Kendall though it is not provided by the MBTA. It could use some help too.
I thought about it but I guess I didn't understand how bad it is. I can see adding a loop around the square and down Broadway.
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Old 12-08-2017, 08:53 PM   #406
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Nice. Thanks.


This isn't Crazy BRT Pitches.

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Again, not Crazy BRT Pitches.

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Sure, I'll update the map in 2040.
Fair enough. I'll admit to a general bias towards crazy / fantasy. Your reality-based approach is appreciated.
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:54 PM   #407
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Hey Van, Here's something in your plan that looks really good: MVP (Rt 16) in Medford, between Meadow Glen and the State Police Barracks is over-wide (a super wide shoulder lane--an inner beltway vestige?-- just need some paint) and perfect for a bus lane / queue jump. (or even through the strange 4th lane eastbound through Wellington "circle" and almost to Kelly's roast beef) just before 16 flies over Wellington's northside tracks.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:03 AM   #408
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They ran the first test of a dedicated bus lane on Washington St. in Roslindale this morning, and quite frankly, it was amazing. I am seeing social medial completely light up with glowing reports, mine included. Aside from a few tepid expressions of anxiety about parking, it is already extremely popular. It's no exaggeration to say that it will save people 10 to 15 minutes on their commute time.

http://www.universalhub.com/2017/ima...hills-just-six
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:00 AM   #409
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Does anyone have a map of the old SL3 route as proposed (running on Broadway) and/or as implemented (running on 1st St) before it was cancelled entirely?
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:25 AM   #410
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They ran the first test of a dedicated bus lane on Washington St. in Roslindale this morning, and quite frankly, it was amazing. I am seeing social medial completely light up with glowing reports, mine included. Aside from a few tepid expressions of anxiety about parking, it is already extremely popular. It's no exaggeration to say that it will save people 10 to 15 minutes on their commute time.

http://www.universalhub.com/2017/ima...hills-just-six
Keep up the social media! It should be a huge and natural political win to eliminate all on-street parking between 6am and 9:45am on any street that has a bus running inbound (because most retail stores are closed then anyway).

Outbound will be hard (stores are open and think they need the parking). Finally gettting bus lanes on, say, the length of Congress St will be a lot harder, but a tradition of AM rush lanes will sure make it easier for all to see what is at stake.
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Does anyone have a map of the old SL3 route as proposed (running on Broadway) and/or as implemented (running on 1st St) before it was cancelled entirely?
https://web.archive.org/web/20060308...erwatermap.pdf
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How is there no demand for the Silver Line in South Boston? The SL2 route makes no sense at all either.
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How is there no demand for the Silver Line in South Boston? The SL2 route makes no sense at all either.
If you're asking "why did the SL3 fail in South Boston?":

- Low frequency.

- Higher fare than local buses.

- At the time local traffic in the Seaport wasn't the disaster it is now, so while I never rode it, I doubt it ran any faster than the local buses.

And the T had (and has) limited numbers of buses for it, so it meant they could increase SL1/SL2 service.

If they had the equipment, I could certainly see it having potential now with the traffic issues hurting the local buses.
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One of the few things I was happy to hear about incoming city councilor Ed Flynn is that he's interested in improving Seaport transit, specifically between Broadway and the Seaport down L / Summer street.
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