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Old 07-16-2018, 01:19 PM   #601
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No. It just doesn't work. Even alucobond panels would have been better, they would have gone fine with the elegant simplicity of the addition. Now the ribbon and the old cornice will be fighting it out like rival divas for attention. Big mistake.
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Old 07-16-2018, 08:09 PM   #602
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the ribbon and the old cornice will be fighting it out like rival divas for attention
That's my biggest takeaway so far. I still don't see where they pulled this butterscotch color from, and having it so close to the copper only compounds this problem.
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:58 PM   #603
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:59 PM   #604
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Its butt...err scotch, colored.
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Old 07-23-2018, 09:32 AM   #605
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I walked by two people on Devonshire the other day who were trying to make sense of it. It was fun to eavesdrop. They were trying to figure out whether it was wood or plastic with multiple color "swirls" or if it was all one color and "rippled." I didn't interrupt, but the last comment I heard about it was "it looks really cool." So I guess it's a win?
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Old 07-23-2018, 09:59 PM   #606
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My friend, the project architect on the hotel part of the project, appreciates the compliments from the members of this board.
I thought the whole thing would be ghastly.

I was quite wrong. I really like the result. Including the butterscotch taffy. Well done, son or daughter.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:52 PM   #607
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:57 PM   #608
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:24 AM   #609
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A lot of people object to this underside treatment, but walking by, in person it looks really nice.
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Old 08-16-2018, 10:42 AM   #610
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A lot of people object to this underside treatment, but walking by, in person it looks really nice.
When walking by can you see the lines in between the panels? Seems like one of those things where you only notice them because we can zoom in with a camera.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:02 AM   #611
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I like it...and love the project. The loss of the wrought iron windows on Water Street entrance has me twitching negatively, a little bit. The replacement is not commensurate with what they removed.

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Old 08-16-2018, 11:11 AM   #612
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It's probably a brightness thing. The new windows allow far more light in.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:49 PM   #613
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When walking by can you see the lines in between the panels? Seems like one of those things where you only notice them because we can zoom in with a camera.
Yes you can, but it's a LOT more subtle.

People are noticing this treatment and for the most part they like it. I've notice a lot of people in the street stopping and staring.
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Old 08-16-2018, 03:44 PM   #614
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Yea so Id say this is a success. I had no idea what the hell to expect with this one so just let it go and watched. Its definitely weird, so is the New Balance HQ, but I think overall it came out good. I like the new masonry the best vs the top glass portion.
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Old 08-16-2018, 04:36 PM   #615
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I like it...and love the project. The loss of the wrought iron windows on Water Street entrance has me twitching negatively, a little bit. The replacement is not commensurate with what they removed.



Wows thats a big loss.

Hope the metal gets creatively reused somewhere by someone...
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Old 08-18-2018, 06:35 AM   #616
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Wows thats a big loss.

Hope the metal gets creatively reused somewhere by someone...
Probably Bronze, not wrought iron or cast iron. Valuable for art's sake as well as for scrap. Too bad they're gone.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:56 AM   #617
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It's probably a brightness thing. The new windows allow far more light in.
It's most likely more of an energy code thing than brightness.
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Old 08-18-2018, 09:22 AM   #618
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IThe loss of the wrought iron windows on Water Street ... The replacement is not commensurate with what they removed.
Why in the name of puck did they commit this senseless act of barbarism?

Is the subcontractor working on the windows a native of Heathen Worcester, where Urban Redevelopment lives on at its worst?
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Old 08-22-2018, 09:24 AM   #619
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Why in the name of puck did they commit this senseless act of barbarism?

Is the subcontractor working on the windows a native of Heathen Worcester, where Urban Redevelopment lives on at its worst?
Why blame a subcontractor? The decision tree goes like this:
  • Investors
  • developer(owner)
  • designer
  • contractor
  • subconstractor

The craftspeople who installed this are the last people to blame. Start at the top and go down.

Lots of choices had to have been made here. Likely energy code. The only way an investor/developer would choose to retain and restore something like this is if a historic commission required it, or if the investor/developer thought that making this change would hurt business. They clearly do not think that their constituency cares about a well crafted historic storefront.

In the end I agree this is a terrible loss. I wish other choices were made.

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Old 08-22-2018, 10:01 PM   #620
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Taking away at what significantly makes the streetwall interesting, overall I'm happy to see the rehab of the buildings in this project, but the loss of the ornamentation is such a shame.
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