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Old 08-11-2018, 06:55 AM   #1
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Diagrams on Skyscraperpage

When you type Boston (+Cambridge, Somerville, Everett, Brookline, Quincy, Chelsea, Newton) into Skyscraperpage's diagrams page and search for buildings under construction, this is literally the entire list of buildings it shows!

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This is something that has been bothering me for a while, and I don't want to be the only person who ever follows up to get it updated (Odurandina, where are you?!). Appropriate backup on the heights is needed and it can be a pain to be the only person looking for it.

Buildings that are missing completely over 200'....
Topped out:
Northeastern Dorm - Columbus Ave Student Housing (272')
Julie Hall Emannuel Dorm (~205')
MXD Cambridge (300', or possibly 314' according to Odurandina)

Well underway over 200':
Echelon, ie M1-M2 in Seaport (~260', x3 separate towers)
NEMA Seaport (~250'-260')
Marriott Moxy (273')
MIT's 5(?) tower project East Campus (highest dorm tower is 381', unsure about rest but all over 200' and up to 295')
Mass + Main Residential in Central Square (~205')

More under 200':
Education First Cambridge
Northpoint blocky thing Cambridge
Six West Broadway Hotel South Boston

There are also some issues with the proposed section for anybody who wants to continue to fight the good fight, but for now it's really glaring to not have any of these above buildings listed when they are all out of the ground, many topped out!
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:06 PM   #2
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Re: Diagrams on Skyscraperpage

Those diagrams are usually set to only show buildings with diagrams and the list is updated based on posts requesting updates by individuals with accounts on the website and the diagrams themselves are made by anyone who wants. For example I created the images for 3 of the 5 buildings shown their and to create the higher quality renders it takes a lot of time and for me currently I don't have the time anymore to put into creating diagrams.
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Old 08-11-2018, 07:41 PM   #3
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Those diagrams are usually set to only show buildings with diagrams and the list is updated based on posts requesting updates by individuals with accounts on the website and the diagrams themselves are made by anyone who wants. For example I created the images for 3 of the 5 buildings shown their and to create the higher quality renders it takes a lot of time and for me currently I don't have the time anymore to put into creating diagrams.
I appreciate your work with these. However, in this case I have it set to all buildings (which is always my setting, for completeness) and that is still the full list. I am much less concerned with getting actual diagrams up there at this point. I mainly just want to make sure the buildings are all accounted for as this is my go-to source for statistical comparisons.

I mean, there are literally 10 buildings over 200' that are out of the ground and growing, and only 2 of them are on that list. (missing 4 seaport, 2 Kendall, 1 Central Sq, and Marriott Moxy) It's also obviously tough that those 3 topped out buildings over 200' aren't on there either. I will start chipping away at it if nobody else will help, but it's just surprising that it was able to reach this point in the first place.
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Old 08-11-2018, 09:55 PM   #4
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Those diagrams are usually set to only show buildings with diagrams and the list is updated based on posts requesting updates by individuals with accounts on the website and the diagrams themselves are made by anyone who wants. For example I created the images for 3 of the 5 buildings shown their and to create the higher quality renders it takes a lot of time and for me currently I don't have the time anymore to put into creating diagrams.
I feel your pain when it comes to updating all of these websites with new stats on buildings in the area. When I get some free time here and there I update Emporis, Wikipedia and CTBUH. I mainly focus on Northern New England (mainly Portland) and Cambridge, with some input in Beantown too.

MXD Cambridge: 294' (314' figure includes ground elevation, 20')
M.I.T. Kendall Square Dorm (SOMA building 4): 342'
MIT Kendall Square NOMA: 295'
Mass & Main: Under review at CTBUH, but definitely around 205'-207'
Parcel I: 252' Height to tip - 270'
Parcel G: 243'
MIT SoMa#2: 240'
MIT SoMa#3: 238.5'
Education First Phase 3: 162'

Some good Cambridge height sources here that I help update:

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/comp...put%5B%5D=list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Massachusetts

https://www.emporis.com/city/102918/.../all-buildings
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Old 08-18-2018, 11:27 AM   #5
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Re: Diagrams on Skyscraperpage

I made a few requests and it looks like somebody else made one, so the diagram has improved to the following. Note I also just requested Marriott Moxy to be added.

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I still need help finding the correct heights for the Northeastern Dorm, all Seaport construction, and all the MIT Kendall construction.

Then there are all the buildings in the South End, Southie, and North Point, mostly under 200' but over 10 stories.

Also note that the below diagram is for buildings completed in the area since 2016. It's missing some key ones! Seaport Parcels B and C (Via and The Benjamin) really jump to mind.

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It will be very appreciated to get some help here and get the missing buildings added to the list!
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Old 08-18-2018, 08:04 PM   #6
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Very fine work, DZ.
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There's a lot of great info you're looking for in this link below DZ, especially for buildings in the Seaport area:

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/comp...put%5B%5D=list

As for MIT Kendall heights, I listed that in the 4th post above.
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As for MIT Kendall heights, I listed that in the 4th post above.
Where are the original sources for these heights? I'm particularly curious about the 342'. The SSP people don't just take my word for it so I need to provide backup with every request.
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In the Emporis and Wikipedia links I've posted above, there are a lot of original sources listed at the bottom of most pages (most of them from cambridge.gov).
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