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Old 03-21-2019, 08:47 PM   #1301
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I also think the operators need to be retrained on how to close doors. Ok the orange line they use the door close button to make the dinging noise to warn people on the platform and they flick them open and closed like crazy to repeat it. This is usually at least 10 seconds before they're actually going to close the doors but you can hear the pneumatics in the door starting and suddenly stopping closing every time they do it. What unnecessary wear, they put those things through like 6 to 7 door close cycles at each stop just so the door noise will play...
Always though that is because of assholes trying to get on the train when its leaving, or a bag is blocking the door, or something tripping the doors to reopen.

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But if you were to branch out to say a West Roxbury branch and a Hyde Park branch than the electronic signs would be required.
Never going to happen to Hyde Park - branching would have to be north side (not sure if there are any branching free rows up that way).
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:10 AM   #1302
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Never going to happen to Hyde Park - branching would have to be north side (not sure if there are any branching free rows up that way).
Probably not, but the original plan for the Orange Line did involve branching at Forest Hills, with a Hyde Park branch and a West Roxbury/Dedham branch. I always wonder what that corridor would look like today, had the Hyde Park branch been built in the 80s. I don't think Roslindale and West Roxbury would have changed as much, since the Needham Line already has rapid transit station spacing.
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Old 03-22-2019, 11:25 AM   #1303
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Probably not, but the original plan for the Orange Line did involve branching at Forest Hills, with a Hyde Park branch and a West Roxbury/Dedham branch. I always wonder what that corridor would look like today, had the Hyde Park branch been built in the 80s. I don't think Roslindale and West Roxbury would have changed as much, since the Needham Line already has rapid transit station spacing.
It would be cool, but, then we wouldn't have the NEC.
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Old 03-22-2019, 02:35 PM   #1304
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Re: New Red and Orange Line Cars

On a more RL/OL cars topic, the Monday 3/25 FMCB meeting has Red/Orange Line Improvements project on the agenda. Unfortunately it's only a written submission which probably means no big news but now that its early spring we can be hopeful again. Traditional the RL/OL improvements presentations include the signals project, Wellington yard, Cabot yard, OL test track, RL test track, and a brief mention of the cars. If its bad news they'll probably just skip over them entirely.
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It would be cool, but, then we wouldn't have the NEC.
Track 4's claimed by Amtrak for expansion Forest Hills to Readville, so this one's officially physically impossible. There's no way anything works with NEC traffic growth if that 4th track isn't added, and taking away Track 3 for Orange would be immediately and permanently catastrophic.

That was a proposal very much of its time. OL-W. Rox is a locked-in trajectory, and if you really really want rapid transit to Hyde Park the trajectory is going to involve. . .
  • proper RL Ashmont-Mattapan heavy rail extension to finish that job
  • digging a 3300 ft. River St. tunnel under the hard granite bedrock from Mattapan Yard/Station to a portal on the Poydras St. hillside.
  • quad-track Fairmount Line points south where most of it used to be 3-4 tracks by ex- freight siding areas (example: the river-side egress at Fairmount Station used to be extra track berths) and widening the first 3 Neponset crossings.
  • displace commuter rail yard across the street to Readville Yard 5, re-use Readville Yard 2 as RL station + yard
. . .which is nobody's idea of a high-priority yet because we haven't attempted real Urban Rail headways on Fairmount, and haven't attempted a real RL-Mattapan extension yet. But at least it's physically possible to attempt in the deep long-term unlike Orange-HP, so Hyde Park isn't totally S.O.L. forever and ever on getting a subway one-seat should that become a pressing future need.
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