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Old 01-31-2018, 01:32 PM   #321
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Put me down on the tacky side with the marble. It's out of place. There's no sense of tectonics or weight (therefore 'constructedness' or 'solidity') because it's applied like two-dimensional surfaces. No real difference in treatment from the glass it's coplanar with. It seems calculated to make people say, "ooh, marble, expensive" while still managing to look and work like bathroom tile. I'm not buying it.
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:48 PM   #322
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i have the very minimum of architectural nomenclature. But i had exactly the reaction you describe. Except that i asked, "can i fall for it, re; accept the consequence of the 'assumed thinness of the fake rock' that results from this treatment?"

For me, the answer was, decidedly "yes."

Skittles lights and Eye Candy architecture must make a good number of you ill. Cue Beton Brut. i'm not a fair judge. i don't fuss over the Seaport much. Yet, i put this near top of the best cube shaped thing in the Metro.

Some of the buildings should have been split into 2 and the architecture is comparable to a fancy cd jewel box or packaging for an electronic device. i don't fret over it much. i'll chuckle when the nimby's defame the outcome of the Seaport in the Globe.

When this neighborhood fills in, it'll be a huge success. The place is going to be a vibrant village.... though, badly in need of some dive bars and modestly priced restaurants. Hopefully it will find them.

Need some Santa Monica Pier treatment down there (minus the Ferris Wheel).

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Old 02-01-2018, 01:22 PM   #323
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Need some Santa Monica Pier treatment down there (minus the Ferris Wheel).
Nooo thank you.. itís been a few years since Iíve been to Santa Monica pier, but by all accounts, I remember the place to be pretty trashy. Wouldnít want to be living near anything like that at all.
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Old 02-01-2018, 01:25 PM   #324
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Put me down on the tacky side with the marble. It's out of place. There's no sense of tectonics or weight (therefore 'constructedness' or 'solidity') because it's applied like two-dimensional surfaces. No real difference in treatment from the glass it's coplanar with. It seems calculated to make people say, "ooh, marble, expensive" while still managing to look and work like bathroom tile. I'm not buying it.
Thatís a good way of putting it. Itís like the feeling I get when I know Iím looking at fake brick work vs the real hand-laden stuff.
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Old 02-01-2018, 02:58 PM   #325
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Nooo thank you.. itís been a few years since Iíve been to Santa Monica pier, but by all accounts, I remember the place to be pretty trashy. Wouldnít want to be living near anything like that at all.
I assume you're not confusing Santa Monica Pier with the old Pacific Ocean Park (POP) Pier from the 50s & 60s....

The (Legendary) Miki Dora is long gone... and the winter swells are no longer groomed by the old Pier.

POP Pier was nearly totally destroyed during the winter storms of '69, and gone (like totally) by the late-70s.

An epic surf spot (enforced by the Dog Town locals) was totally destroyed by the construction of the new Santa Monica Pier.

The buildings aren't very good at SMP. Clearly, they're not even trying to be.

The throngs of locals and tourists make spending an hour on the Pier such an enjoyable experience!


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it was wild in the '70s.

short clip; 'the Cove' as wonderfully told by Sean Penn, Stacy Peralta and the Z-Boys.

start at 4:15.....

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Old 02-01-2018, 04:14 PM   #326
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I assume you're not confusing Santa Monica Pier with the old Pacific Ocean Park (POP) Pier from the 50s & 60s....

The (Legendary) Miki Dora is long gone... and the winter swells are no longer groomed by the old Pier.

POP Pier was nearly totally destroyed during the winter storms of '69, and gone (like totally) by the late-70s.

An epic surf spot (enforced by the Dog Town locals) was totally destroyed by the construction of the new Santa Monica Pier.

The buildings aren't very good at SMP. Clearly, they're not even trying to be. The throngs of locals and tourists make spending an hour on the Pier such an enjoyable experience!
Nope, I haven't confused the two. I wasn't around in the 50's or 60's to know about POP Pier .

Spending an hour there visiting probably isn't so bad. I just wouldn't to live right around there.
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Old 02-02-2018, 10:21 AM   #327
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I love the Santa Monica pier. Unfortunately it would never work around here due to our short summers.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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Old 02-04-2018, 11:02 PM   #328
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:03 AM   #330
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I'm loving the step-up roof seating, a real nice addition the Harbor Walk! Great views from every direction!
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Old 02-07-2018, 02:27 PM   #331
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Was just at Santa Monica Pier, as boring as a shopping mall with "approved" weirdness to make people think they are having a authentic experience. Sunsets from the end of the pier are great though.

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Old 02-18-2018, 07:53 AM   #333
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:31 PM   #334
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What exactly is that stepped up little pavilion on the water??
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Old 02-20-2018, 05:36 PM   #335
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front row seat for watching One Blueway Place rise?
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:17 PM   #336
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I hope it becomes a Bluth Banana Stand. #TheresAlwaysMoneyInTheBananaStand
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Old 02-21-2018, 08:15 PM   #337
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Why do I think that these steps will be mainly empty?
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Old 02-21-2018, 10:25 PM   #338
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Why do I think that these steps will be mainly empty?
Really? I think they'll be a hit, assuming the plywood railings are temporary and the bottom is some sort of cafe. What's not to like about elevated seating on the water?
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:12 PM   #339
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Really? I think they'll be a hit, assuming the plywood railings are temporary and the bottom is some sort of cafe. What's not to like about elevated seating on the water?
Yeah, as long as people remain respectful and clean up after themselves, this should be pretty nice, like the steps in the front of the ICA (albeit smaller of course).
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Old 02-22-2018, 07:17 AM   #340
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It's similar to the T head-house in Downtown Crossing which is always busy.
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