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Old 10-21-2017, 02:07 AM   #661
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When the dust settles and GE reaches bottom it will probably be a good buy opportunity. Not to say it won't cancel/postpone building plans or something even more dramatic.
Umm. probably safe to say that whatever slim-to-none chance that building had of getting built is gone now – as in (gone-gone).

The only shoe left to drop is the 'even more dramatic' part. ...In the aftermath (of the Amazon and GE fiasco's), Charlie Baker might be kicked out of the club. Some in the community will target Walsh as well.
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Old 10-21-2017, 08:27 AM   #662
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Amazon is not a fiasco. No tax breaks offered by the city of Boston and a solid mention of many different options with a focus on the one with the largest area that is ready to go and has the space that amazon needs.
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:55 AM   #663
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Again I'll take a more optimistic view on this one: even if GE were to shrink to a fraction of its current size, they'll still likely need a headquarters larger than the existing brick structures.

When companies reinvent/rebrand themselves (as GE is clearly trying to do), often times they actually do invest in the symbology to embody that. What better way to come across as a sleek, new, streamlined company than with a sleek new corporate symbol?

The naysayers have a point. But I still bet some structure of architectural significance lands in that parking lot.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:37 AM   #664
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Again I'll take a more optimistic view on this one: even if GE were to shrink to a fraction of its current size, they'll still likely need a headquarters larger than the existing brick structures.

When companies reinvent/rebrand themselves (as GE is clearly trying to do), often times they actually do invest in the symbology to embody that. What better way to come across as a sleek, new, streamlined company than with a sleek new corporate symbol?

The naysayers have a point. But I still bet some structure of architectural significance lands in that parking lot.
I have to agree with this sentiment.

The new GE CEO, John Flannery, has to demonstrate some fiscal restraint at first. He was brought in by the board to get earnings back on track. But once he does that, he also needs the symbology of the new HQ to help with the ongoing transformation.

This is a delay, not a retreat.
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Old 10-21-2017, 11:55 AM   #665
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Well, the stock completely rebounded, so it might have been a lot of panic for nothing.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:18 AM   #666
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When companies reinvent/rebrand themselves (as GE is clearly trying to do), often times they actually do invest in the symbology to embody that. What better way to come across as a sleek, new, streamlined company than with a sleek new corporate symbol?
It'd look bad with all the job cuts and cost cutting in general.
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Old 10-22-2017, 03:38 PM   #667
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What's the deal with the land owned by GE in Everett and Lynn?
Does GE say still own that land? And why would the taxpayers give this dying company land deals on such prime property? Especially if they still own huge amounts of land in those areas.

We the taxpayers are the donkeys in the room.

I actually like baker but seriously he should have told them no
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Old 10-22-2017, 04:28 PM   #668
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It'd look bad with all the job cuts and cost cutting in general.
The headquarters' opening and any related press releases will be YEARS away from now; no issue whatsoever with a proximity effect to the layoffs. Planning/design/progress can be going on in the background without issue. Shareholder reactions / things said in shareholder briefings are notoriously short-term in hindsight perspective. They already announced staged delays in the HQ construction, which already conveys the message of increased prudence in this area of spending. In 2-4 years from now, the sleeker/re-branded image will be welcomed with open arms.

Meanwhile, in response to Rifle, the state can always scale back the tax cuts (as they did for Vertex) if GE doesn't come through.

Even a GE at half the size is a serious, serious company. I 100% agree that the taxpayers shouldn't be taken for a ride here, but there is precedence for governmental pushback/adjustment in the face of lack of follow-through.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:02 PM   #669
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If GE wants tax deals on prime property why not do land swaps for Lynn and Everett locations and build affordable housing? For the deal--- Maybe GE should have built their corporate headquarters on those locations which they already own instead making a quick 10 million in tax breaks for prime property that will always have value.

The overall population are a bunch of morons not to recognize these corrupt dealings between our politicians and the corporate class that claim they create jobs.

Boston is booming we don't need deals like GE and liberty mutual.
For Christ sake kids cant even bike ride around the area anymore because of the high volume of traffic. There are plenty of jobs around here. No need to start giving prime property away to billion dollar corporations.

GE shareholders should be happy about the move into Boston at least
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:51 PM   #670
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I'm just happy none of you anti-business folks are in charge of things. You'd all run Boston into the ground like Detroit.
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:55 AM   #671
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I'm just happy none of you anti-business folks are in charge of things. You'd all run Boston into the ground like Detroit.
It's not anti-business.

Detroit was run into the ground because of the same types of dealings which was very heavily dependent on the auto industry.
Union pensions and healthcare which has lead to city budget deficits
Unlimited tax incentives for the corporations
Corrupt politicians


Mass just got their bonds downgraded.

MIT took mass to the promise land right now. We are very lucky to have biotech engine in Cambridge mass. Average square foot of commercial space is roughly $78 in Cambridge vs Boston $60. The real innovation is coming from Cambridge. I believe Amazon settles in Somerville.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:21 PM   #672
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Amidst all of the lousy GE news lately (of which one could clearly post many bullet points...downsizing, layoffs, stock price, etc), let's instead focus on the positive from today's shareholder presentation:

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GE has maintained it will keep its promise to add 800 jobs over the next 7 years at its new headquarters in Boston's Seaport.
http://www.wbur.org/bostonomix/2017/...-cuts-dividend
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:46 PM   #673
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Amidst all of the lousy GE news lately (of which one could clearly post many bullet points...downsizing, layoffs, stock price, etc), let's instead focus on the positive from today's shareholder presentation:



http://www.wbur.org/bostonomix/2017/...-cuts-dividend

GE needs to be near the talent pool or they will die off like the dinosaurs.
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Old 12-04-2017, 06:55 PM   #674
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Good news, folks...

NPC filed with the BPDA shows the GE Headquarters remains largely intact - in fact, with some small additions. Looks like GE is serious about going forward with this corporate headquarters campus.

As reported by BBJ:
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The changes include the rehabilitation of the four-story Necco Court bridge, adding a 9,387-square-foot parcel of open space to the headquarters campus and expanding planned rooftop meeting space at 5 Necco Court by 1,880 square feet. All told, the changes add 3,865 square feet of space to the campus, which is dubbed “Innovation Point” and will eventually span 2.7 acres along the Fort Point Channel.
As far as scheduling...
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The first phase, which is now underway, includes renovations to two brick warehouses, a public dock on the fort Point Channel and the Necco Court bridge and should wrap up by mid-2019. The second phase is scheduled to include construction of a 12-story office building and creation of public open space, and should wrap up by mid-2021.
https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/n...hq-campus.html
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:04 PM   #675
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Great news! Thanks!
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:13 PM   #676
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Some of these have been posted a couple are new or of higher quality than the ones before. Either way enjoy for tonight.



















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Old 12-05-2017, 10:15 AM   #677
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Nice! Thanks for the updates!
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Old 01-16-2018, 10:48 AM   #678
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/ge-expe...rve-1516104171

GE might be broken up to improve profitability. It'll be interesting to see how that affects the Boston HQ.
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Old 01-16-2018, 11:32 AM   #679
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Thanks. An interesting (development) to say the least! ...of course we pretty-much already knew the main HQ building was on life support. Now, the final gasps of the dying patient (as far as GE making a significant impact on Boston is concerned) appears to be upon us...

At this point, in the big picture, the cancellation of the main building and a few hundred workers no longer coming is little more than a minor bruise.... Shocking as GE's fall from prominence is, Boston will hardly notice.
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Old 01-16-2018, 11:41 AM   #680
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Thanks. An interesting (development) to say the least! ...of course we pretty-much already knew the main HQ building was on life support. Now, the final gasp of the dying patient, appears to be upon us (as far as GE making a significant impact on Boston is concerned)...

At this point, the cancellation of one building and a few hundred workers no longer arriving represents little more than a minor bruise in the big picture.

Shocking as GE's fall from prominence is, Boston will hardly notice it.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. All that article is saying is that GE might (emphasis might) spin off some of its units into other companies. Even if that did happen, those spin-offs could still decide to make their HQ in Boston. It's way too early to have any idea what (if anything) will happen to the GE HQ.
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