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Old 07-29-2015, 08:10 PM   #21
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Re: "Midtown"/Widett Circle in a non-Olympics Boston

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That said, the particular issue I would have especially with 1a would be how it would interface with the waterfront... basically it would be a 30 foot or so drop to the water, which might be good for Global Warming, but it would be a pretty far drop to make any River/Harbor Walk work out.
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It could be the harbor "cliff" walk.
Chicago has a couple projects in the works that do exactly that, with plazas decked over rail/railyards that step down to a water level river walk; 150 North Riverside and 444 West Lake(River Pointe).

Here's the before:
150N Riverside

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River Pointe

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Current(150N Riverside on left and River Pointe on right):


Both Chicago parcels have somewhat more solid ground to work with than parcels 1a+b, but still necessitated dramatic cantilevers. The River Pointe project addresses the river walk poorly imho, giving it a lovely blank beige wall as a backdrop. The 150N Riverside river walk will be much more activated.


http://150northriverside.com/building/facts/

Draw what inspiration ye may from these projects.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:37 PM   #22
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Re: "Midtown"/Widett Circle in a non-Olympics Boston

I think the reason at least some of those other developments would have to happen first is not any direct dependencies, but rather they extend the downtown towards these 1a and 1b parcels and would help justify the cost of decking. Also if you consider how long it has taken to get the Mass Pike parcels decked I think you'll see many more less challenging parcels redeveloped first.
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Old 11-07-2017, 06:11 PM   #23
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http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/...6tM/story.html

Bottom line: itís for sale.
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Old 11-09-2017, 09:53 AM   #24
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Re: "Midtown"/Widett Circle in a non-Olympics Boston

Serious questions -

- Aside from the "Access Road" off the 93N frontage road, how will Widett be accessed? Clearly, "Access Road" is completely inadequate

- How could this site be even remotely large enough to be "the next big neighborhood" ...?
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:20 PM   #25
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Re: "Midtown"/Widett Circle in a non-Olympics Boston

If the BTD site got sold off, like Kraft was pretending to do with the revs stadium feint, you might be able to access Widett through that redevelopment. If the North South Rail Link happened and Amtrak used that opportunity to move their rail yard up to Woburn, then you could redevelop that site and the lot next to Andrew Station to connect Widett to South Boston.

The site has shit connectivity right now and if it got redeveloped the only thing you can do with just the Access Road is a suburban style apartment block where you have one or two parking spaces per unit. Which would be a huge shame, obviously.

Also, calling Widett Circle "Midtown" is a crime. I will literally come and citizen arrest you if you call it Midtown.
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Old 11-10-2017, 02:48 PM   #26
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A much better long term plan would be to realign I93 along the tracks similar to the plan for Beacon Yards in Alston. Instead of 50 isolated acres in need of major infrastructure and in need of being raised up 10 or 20 feet due to flooding concerns you could have 50 acres integrated with the South End without a highway in between. State should just buy the land now and head off bad development.
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Old 11-10-2017, 03:43 PM   #27
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Re: "Midtown"/Widett Circle in a non-Olympics Boston

I'd like to see a light rail urban ring go through the Widett Circe area, with a station there to support TOD. Here'e my idea to connect an urban ring light rail line from Ruggles Station to the Red Line using the abandoned trolley tunnel at the Broadway station. Red is surface line, yellow is elevated, and green is tunnel (using the abandoned trolley tunnel).

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Old 11-13-2017, 11:46 AM   #28
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Also, calling Widett Circle "Midtown" is a crime. I will literally come and citizen arrest you if you call it Midtown.
What makes this more annoying is that they're also referring to Chinatown as Midtown, so at least make up your mind!!
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