Parcel 25 (South Bay)

[BeeLine]

Two residential proposals for this Big Dig parcel.
http://www.bostonherald.com/business...=recent_bullet

[JohnAKeith]

This is Parcel 25?



This is the general area according to the Boston Globe:



http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/...wJK/story.html

[northpoint24]

my real question is .. " what is parcel "murdered " that you've seemed to have highlighted. This isnt the water waterfront on NY, ......... you''ll live. : )

[BostonObserver]

That parcel is the future home of the Red Rum Corporation.

[AmericanFolkLegend]

Tony is a little boy that lives in the mouth of the Tip O'Neil Tunnel.

[Suffolk 83]

Would really like to see a bold design here. Enough of this 'lets fit in' design. Its going to have alot of eyes on it. Give me something impressive to look at on 93 even at 24 stories that should be able to happen

[BostonObserver]

Everyone who wants better architecture should show up at the meetings and voice their opinion.

[vanshnookenraggen]

This is Archstone. It will either be like the one at Northpoint (win) or more like the rest of their crap (fail).

[czsz]

This parcel is huge even in comparison to the block-wide surrounding structures. It's sad that the economics of building over 93 here demand a building that will fill the whole thing. The city would be better off urbanistically if the city could sell off 4-6 plots of this (come to think of it, why didn't they do that with 24? no excuse there...)

[Rick]

Massdot has the proposals up now.

Archstone
http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/Porta...25Proposal.pdf






Trinity
http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/Porta...25Proposal.pdf

[Shepard]

That last rendering isn't in the proposal and looks to me like a different building. Where is it from?

Overall the building is OK - quite a bit blah - there's a trellis and public art over the highway gap facing Albany/Surface (whichever it's called there) as well as a plaza, and some retail on Kneeland.

My observation: plazas that feel like they're on the edge of civilization don't work. They need to be firmly planted in a seemingly very dense area to attract activity.

[Hutchison]

2 proposals - archstone and trinity

[KentXie]

Trinity's proposal would look awesome if they can up it to 500 ft (only the curved portion) and replicate the curve structure on the shorter box component (angled opposite of the taller component) with a height of 400 ft.

Archstone's proposal looks like a mash of the older design of Atlantic wharf and their project in Cambridge.

[vanshnookenraggen]

I could live with either of those.

[BostonUrbEx]

What's "gateway view"? It's in the southbound lanes. Unless they're trying to have a gateway view for when people look into their rearview mirrors so they'll feel like they're leaving all of civilization behind.

[underground]

I get the feeling someone's gonna complain it should be some sort of epic gateway, but that spot really is the edge of the earth from a pedestrian and resident's perspective. Both proposals are fine.

[itchy]

My immediate reaction to both of these was visceral:

"Yet more hideous, alucobond-and-glass, value-engineered modernist boxes. Why can we not build anything decent-looking these days? And does everything have to be a super-sized box with a dinky strip of grass surrounding it? Can we at least do away with the grass?"

I then took a minute to calm down; take a deep breath; recall that the nature of this parcel means we're not going to have small, diverse plots; and review the renders a second time. Upon doing so, my reaction was ... unchanged.

[Arborway]

White Alucobond on a high rise is basically the same as slapping vinyl siding on the Hancock Building.

I'm still thrilled that the original Filene's design died.

[HenryAlan]

I like the way Trinity handles the street level. The tower has to be built in a raised deck, but sliding in the small retail low rise along the edge works nicely to obscure this issue.

[cozzyd]

I want Trinity ground level + Archstone rest of the tower