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briv 02-07-2011 04:25 PM

Worst Empty Parcel
 
Please choose one. Polls close 11:59pm on Feb. 28.

A list of all previous winners can be found here: http://www.archboston.org/awards/

In no particular order:


1. Greenway Ramp Parcels
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2. Former Gaiety Kensington Site
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3. Former Boston Garden Site
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99...t_gstreetv.jpg


4. Dartmouth & Newbury Lot
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5. Columbus Center Parcels
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6. Hayward Place Lot
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99...t_gstreetv.jpg


7. Merrimac & Causeway Lot
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8. City Hall Plaza
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9. Fan Pier
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99...s_gstreetv.jpg

Ron Newman 02-08-2011 10:18 AM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
You didn't accept my nominations of "City Hall Plaza" and "Fan Pier" ?

briv 02-08-2011 10:38 AM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
They're added now. I had the images uploaded and meant to include them, but I just overlooked them when I built the thread. I'm sure I made a few other mistakes as well. If anyone notices one, please let me know.

Ron Newman 02-08-2011 02:47 PM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
In that case, can you rescind my vote and let me vote again?

BostonUrbEx 02-08-2011 03:04 PM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
All of those which were something of some use in their previous state, are now parking lots or otherwise useful in some way. The Kensington lot is the only one with zero use that was something. Thus, I say Kensington is the worst.

Ron Newman 02-08-2011 03:12 PM

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The Columbus Center parcels are vacant. I'm not sure what the Boston Garden parcel is used for -- it isn't a public pay parking lot as far as I can tell.

BostonUrbEx 02-08-2011 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Newman (Post 116463)
The Columbus Center parcels are vacant. I'm not sure what the Boston Garden parcel is used for -- it isn't a public pay parking lot as far as I can tell.

But, as far as I know, the Columbus Center parcels were merely the grassy sides to the Pike they were intended to be before the project started and then died. Boston Garden parcel is used for team/show/band buses and game/show staging.

briv 02-08-2011 04:50 PM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Newman (Post 116460)
In that case, can you rescind my vote and let me vote again?

Let me look into it, Ron.

Shepard 02-08-2011 05:19 PM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Does anyone believe the "Merrimac and Causeway Lot" as called here should be built on? I wouldn't want to see the facade of the State Services Building hidden. I've always pictured this as the site of a very successful landscaped park (yes I know, despite so much open space like Government Center and CRP being so close...)

I'd say if there's a glaring empty lot at this intersection, it's the one across the street next to the Bulfinch Hotel.

Ron Newman 02-08-2011 05:53 PM

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I'd call the Newbury & Dartmouth one the 'Least Bad Empty Parcel' because it is at least screened from the adjoining streets by a decorative iron fence, and it is only a minor break in two otherwise intact streetscapes. Some of the other parking lots could learn from this one.

(However, I am curious how it came to be. Was there a fire many years ago here, and the property owner never felt an economic need to rebuild?)

As for Merrimack and Causeway, I'm not necessarily attached to the idea of building on it, but its current use and appearance are a visual blight. The original wording of this award was "most detrimental vacant lot."

czsz 02-09-2011 12:05 AM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Quote:

I'd call the Newbury & Dartmouth one the 'Least Bad Empty Parcel' because it is at least screened from the adjoining streets by a decorative iron fence, and it is only a minor break in two otherwise intact streetscapes. Some of the other parking lots could learn from this one.
Hallmarks of the "lipstick on a pig" school of landscape design.

Corey 02-09-2011 12:24 PM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonUrbEx (Post 116462)
All of those which were something of some use in their previous state, are now parking lots or otherwise useful in some way. The Kensington lot is the only one with zero use that was something. Thus, I say Kensington is the worst.


I agree with this logic. My 2nd place vote would go to the Former Boston Garden lot.

statler 02-09-2011 02:53 PM

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^^I see the logic but it is dangerous.
The more revenue a property owner gets from a vacant lot, the less pressure they have to develop that lot.

Another reason surface level lots should be discouraged/banned in cities.

DZH22 02-09-2011 07:02 PM

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My first vote would be for Filene's to defend its title, if that was available. That is clearly the most damaging one at the moment, for many different parties and for many different reasons. I'm also bitter that we lost out on a cool tower.

I voted Columbus Center. We had a viable project to cover part of the pike stalled such a long time through meetings and approval processes that, by the time everybody gave it the green light (everybody except Ned), it was no longer feasible to build due to higher construction costs. A nice new tower for the skyline and progress in stitching the city back together, foiled by UFP's.

Ron Newman 02-22-2011 08:36 AM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Hi. After you added City Hall Plaza and Fan Pier to the list of choices, you were going to show me how to rescind my vote and vote again, but I still don't know how to do this.

briv 02-22-2011 09:14 AM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Ron, see if you can re-vote now.

Ron Newman 02-22-2011 09:48 AM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Done, thanks.

Dan 02-23-2011 06:26 PM

Re: Worst Empty Parcel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DZH22 (Post 116592)
My first vote would be for Filene's to defend its title, if that was available. That is clearly the most damaging one at the moment, for many different parties and for many different reasons. I'm also bitter that we lost out on a cool tower.

Agree.

But I voted for Hayward Place.

Ron Newman 03-01-2011 11:23 AM

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Interesting to see the Old Garden parcel win this, as it's so little discussed on this forum compared to Kensington, Hayward, Fan Pier, and the Greenway ramp parcels.

czsz 03-01-2011 08:43 PM

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^ No hope for this one. That's the difference.

When was the last time there was any serious discussion of even a proposal of anything on the site?


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