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12345 03-07-2017 02:50 AM
Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Quote:
Another reason for moving ahead with the long-planned project: a pending deal for a convention center hotel at D and Summer streets, to be developed by a team that includes Texas-based Omni Hotels & Resorts. Massport is in the final stages of negotiations with that team and wants the garage to be done before the hotel. Integrating the garage with the hotel project remains a major discussion point.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...32M/story.html

BKNA 03-07-2017 11:07 AM
Re: Convention center hotel
 
over 1000 rooms planned for this hotel and yes all parking in the 'transportation center' garage that is under construction.

SouthEnder88 04-13-2017 05:01 PM
Re: Convention center hotel
 
It's official: http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/ne...-s-fourth.html

JumboBuc 04-13-2017 05:59 PM
Re: Convention center hotel
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthEnder88 (Post 292306)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catherine Carlock, BBJ
The 800,000-square-foot hotel will span two 21-story towers, which will reach 242 feet and 237 feet, respectively. Some 746 rooms will be a standard size — around 386 square feet — while another 278 rooms will be 220-square-foot “innovation” rooms offered at a lower price point.

The project will also include 120,000 square feet of meeting and event space, including three ballrooms; 40,000 square feet of retail space; and an 8,500-square-foot spa.

[...]

The development team anticipates breaking ground next summer and opening in the first quarter of 2021.
Nice. Renders look wicked boring, but I don't really care. 1,054 rooms could singlehandedly put a dent in hotel rates across the city and 40k sf of retail is huge.

Can we fix this thread title? Something like: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport

BeeLine 04-13-2017 07:41 PM
Re: Convention center hotel
 
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3931/3...fac26ee47b.jpg1-massport omni render

Czervik.Construction 04-13-2017 09:34 PM
Re: Convention center hotel
 
A bit of a seaport snoozefest, but as mentioned above, bringing 1000 hotel rooms into the mix at the seaport, near the convention centers, will be a great thing.

DBM 04-13-2017 10:05 PM
Re: Convention center hotel
 
To me this project implies that the Parker House has been so absolutely crushing it in convention bookings, for so long, that the corporate HQ basically said, "we can cannibalize ourselves at the Parker House and still come out ahead in the aggregate, with new synergies between the Parker House and the new hotel we'll put up in Seaport." Or is that a misreading?

dshoost88 04-13-2017 11:41 PM
Re: Convention center hotel
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBM (Post 292335)
To me this project implies that the Parker House has been so absolutely crushing it in convention bookings, for so long, that the corporate HQ basically said, "we can cannibalize ourselves at the Parker House and still come out ahead in the aggregate, with new synergies between the Parker House and the new hotel we'll put up in Seaport." Or is that a misreading?
I think that's a misreading. The Omni brand has been successful in recent decades at targeting convention space for flagship hotel properties of this magnitude... Providence and Nashville come to mind, for example.

Downtown Boston (I.e. Historic) and the Seaport neighborhoods are distinct enough markets that I don't foresee why they'd be worried about the other hurting business. Westin has Copley and Seaport. Four Seasons is opening their second hotel in a couple years. There is precedent for 2 or more hotels of the same brand in the city.

navigator4 04-14-2017 09:14 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Note the article says the project is being built without subsidies. So much for the naysayers on this site who say convention-headquarter hotels always need subsidies. Get the government out of the way and let the private market operate.

goldenretrievers 04-14-2017 10:05 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
so no capping the haul road? would be a great place to put a park

https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10418...-site-plan.png

https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10418...erstview21.jpg

https://media.bizj.us/view/img/10418...roverall-2.jpg

Equilibria 04-14-2017 10:06 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenretrievers (Post 292385)
so no capping the pike? would be a great place to put a park
That's the Haul Road. The parking garage is on top of the Pike.

goldenretrievers 04-14-2017 10:10 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
statement corrected

Suffolk 83 04-14-2017 10:16 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Would someone, somewhere build an interesting design. These materials, palettes and proportions are so tired in this city at this point. Its like they pull a lever at a parlor game and it mixes and matches the same 5 tired designs in different arrangements

jass 04-14-2017 10:28 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by navigator4 (Post 292379)
Note the article says the project is being built without subsidies. So much for the naysayers on this site who say convention-headquarter hotels always need subsidies. Get the government out of the way and let the private market operate.
Looks like theyll be using the new garage for parking, so thats a subsidy

RandomWalk 04-14-2017 10:34 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Is the rail line severed in that plan, or just an oversight?

JeffDowntown 04-14-2017 11:00 AM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomWalk (Post 292395)
Is the rail line severed in that plan, or just an oversight?
My read of the plan is that the rail line is untouched running behind the building. With perhaps a bit of overhang at the corner by WTC Avenue.

stick n move 04-14-2017 02:13 PM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
I personally like this. Great location, great street level, architecture looks fine for what it is. Its inoffensive and that brickwork/precast could turn out very well. That contrasted against the glass will at least look good, it wont be world breaking, but itll look good.

stick n move 04-14-2017 02:23 PM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Too bad they cant work the dmu station into the design/requirement.

meddlepal 04-14-2017 04:10 PM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Hard to complain about a massive hotel development. It should help brings lots of people into the nightlife fold for that part of the city.

jass 04-14-2017 05:28 PM
Re: Omni Hotel @ BCEC | Summer St | Seaport
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stick n move (Post 292428)
Too bad they cant work the dmu station into the design/requirement.
A station in the basement lobby would be fantastic.

Instead lets eliminate some ROW and make it 1 track forever


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